on the vin tag as you look at it right side twards bottom ---- TO 58 ---where the Z11 would be but this car is not anyone know ??? what it means ---- TO 58 jz

there are a few reported Van Nuys, Ca. pace cars that have been recored but most were NOR cars, What does the rest of the tag say? Thats the way to tell..

69 12437 LOS 115XXX
711 52 52
9 B TO 58

hope you understand with the 3 Xs jz

John welcome to team camaro. I think youre getting the vin and the cowl tag confussed, what you posted is the numbers off the cowl tag and not the vin.

John welcome to team camaro. I think youre getting the vin and the cowl tag confussed, what you posted is the numbers off the cowl tag and not the vin.

thank you for the invite we have been working like dogs in the shop and yes the cowl tag # is just of interest to me the guy got hammered with this car and we were hoping it was something it has z 28 badges and a 396 w/ 4 speed all junk after 23,000 to buy 12,000 to fix it so he can drive it --- jz

John you might want to look on top of the gas tank and see if you can find the build sheet for the car it should be on the front left side on top of the tank,,if its there be super carefully with it's 37 years old, lots of los cars have found them there,, from what you posted all i can tell its a 69 coupe with 711= black interor and 52 52= red top and bottom color and there should be a 0 before the 9b which would be sept second week of 68 build date the TO 58 has me lost,, sure there will be other chime in and help you a lot more than the little i have,, Frank

John you might want to look on top of the gas tank and see if you can find the build sheet for the car it should be on the front left side on top of the tank,,if its there be super carefully with it's 37 years old, lots of los cars have found them there,, from what you posted all i can tell its a 69 coupe with 711= black interor and 52 52= red top and bottom color and there should be a 0 before the 9b which would be sept second week of 68 build date the TO 58 has me lost,, sure there will be other chime in and help you a lot more than the little i have,, Frank

the car has been worked over new gas tank seat covers so the 2 spots i knew are lost we also got second week sept la calif built V8 sport coupe red on red blk interior but the TO 58 ?????? thanks frank

Just an internal plant code on LOS/VN cars. Not meaningful to anyone but the LA folks back in the day.

That car was in Austrailia... is that where you are located, John? I talked a guy who knew the car back around 5/31/2006.

Just an internal plant code on LOS/VN cars. Not meaningful to anyone but the LA folks back in the day.

thank you it was a hope it might have been something -- jz

That car was in Austrailia... is that where you are located, John? I talked a guy who knew the car back around 5/31/2006.


it was bought last week in NH from a dealer silver black stripes i an in jersey car looks to be an orig -- PS , AIR , BRAKES ALL NEW ? SINGLE LEAF 10 BOLT,column tab still on car under hood but now has a 4 speed and a 69 396 motor i dont think this was in Austrailia but i dont know for sure thanks jz

69 12437 LOS 115XXX
711 52 52
9 B TO 58

hope you understand with the 3 Xs jz
John:
First off - Welcome to Team Camaro :hurray:

As far as the "code" - like has been said, it's an internal LA production code - but, are you sure it's a "T" and not an 'I' ?
"T" seems early for that date.
Also - the code usually reads as 'T058' without a large space between the 0 and the 5 - but, I've seen a few that had some odd spacing at times.

Also, it's okay to post the complete Cowl Sequence number (115XXX) as it can't be used to register any vehicle - just a matter of record of the assembly order of the body - it was the 115XXX body produced by Fisher Division.
Several on this site actually record and log this information to compile data and to help find answers to coding questions. This data is NEVER released to the public and is not intended for that purpose - only to document these great cars.
Posting the complete data from the Cowl Tag will even help protect the car - if it shows up on anything else or a different number the group here can catch it...

Oh - and as far as;

it has z 28 badges

They all seem to have those badges now... :rolleyes:

Hope this helps:
John M

John:
First off - Welcome to Team Camaro :hurray:

As far as the "code" - like has been said, it's an internal LA production code - but, are you sure it's a "T" and not an 'I' ?
"T" seems early for that date.
Also - the code usually reads as 'T058' without a large space between the 0 and the 5 - but, I've seen a few that had some odd spacing at times.

Also, it's okay to post the complete Cowl Sequence number (115XXX) as it can't be used to register any vehicle - just a matter of record of the assembly order of the body - it was the 115XXX body produced by Fisher Division.
Several on this site actually record and log this information to compile data and to help find answers to coding questions. This data is NEVER released to the public and is not intended for that purpose - only to document these great cars.
Posting the complete data from the Cowl Tag will even help protect the car - if it shows up on anything else or a different number the group here can catch it...

Oh - and as far as;

They all seem to have those badges now... :rolleyes:

Hope this helps:
John M

thank you for the welcome and you are correct about body # i just have this thing with computers and giving away info u no anyway the body # is as follows 69 12437 LOS 115361 and the TO58 is not spaced as well don't know if you did the 200 R but the clutches in the rear of the case when being replaced should be changed to smooth type ( ALTO RED ) not the waffle type they drag and wear out quicker and leave all kinds of material in the pan as well as take away power ? nothing realy, but trans temps will be cooler and oil will stay pink a lot longer thanks for your help jz in jersey

Thanks for the rear clutch tips :thumbsup:
I have actually set-up two trans' so far - but I have used them for others projects and haven't put onbe in mine yet :sad:
Presently trying to finish an F-100 project with my son and wrapping up a remodel at the house - then hopefully I can get my Rag-top back over to the house and get it done for next summer - maybe - we'll see - you know how it goes :rolleyes:

The CRG ( www.camaros.org ) will be sure to record you tag numbers and add to the data-base.
They will not release anything to anyone other than to confirm it exists and it's on a given car.


John