The car is a nice looking drivable car, not show quality, but very pleasing to the eye. I'm not sure what they are going for price wise? It has the original running gear in it and it runs well. There are no rust issues at all and the interior is nice. The motor could use a little detailing.
Thanks for any help.

All original? With the original engine and trans? It's hard to say without pics, but I'd guess around 35k+...Probably closer to 40K If not original engine, less than 30K

Those are ballpark guessing numbers. Like I said, it's hard to say without actually seeing the car and knowing more details about it.

Probably a little less than that Chris, especially since everyone knows that the 67's are the least popular 1st generation Camaro.......:eek:

The car is a nice looking drivable car, not show quality, but very pleasing to the eye. I'm not sure what they are going for price wise? It has the original running gear in it and it runs well. There are no rust issues at all and the interior is nice. The motor could use a little detailing.
Thanks for any help.

Not to get your hopes up too high, but I have a standing offer for my solid Black sight unseen {pictures only} high optioned 1967 SS/RS L78 original unmolested or restored coupe at 65K. Only 1100+ made and extremely rare almost impossible to find anywhere.

I would think the range would be somewhere in the $50-75K range but that depends on the actual condition. Personally, I think it should be even higher than that but the 67/68 cars are a little tougher to move than the 69 cars.

First, it's not an RS. Second, it's not a show quality restore. I think you guys are shooting a little high on the numbers.
Again, everyone's guesses, including mine, aren't worth a dime without actually seeing the car and knowing it's true condition!
Trust me, I'd LOVE to know our 67's are starting to bring the larger numbers like that!

Im with Jeff and Iron on this one. Those are pretty rare cars and as mentioned pretty hard to findt these days. I would say 40k is the low end based on brief description. But also as Chris says without more info and pics its a shot in the dark.

I have one also and seems like the price on 67 L78 and Zs have really shot up in last few years

I know all of you can interpert this. The really high optioned L78 cars are where the $$$ are. 1119 made with the L78 engine, and not many left after 40 years. Especially in original factory stock form. Compare, as there were nearly 23,000 69 Z28`s and how many clones. And those 69 Z`s command high dollars and are everywhere.

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ST 67-12637N232290 Body
TR 765Z A-2 Paint
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engine, TO526MQ232290

ironcross
is this your engine pad stamp? "engine, TO526MQ232290"
looks like vin is same as trim tag body number?

Steve, It was great talking with you today! Good luck with the car :)

I want to thank both Mark and Phil for their help. If all goes well, I will look at the car in the morning. Wish me luck.

I believe the correct number built is 1138.

ironcross
is this your engine pad stamp? "engine, TO526MQ232290"
looks like vin is same as trim tag body number?

Yes Joe, the engine pad # is TO526MQ -- 232290. The rest was on the cowel tag.

The engine should have a VIN derivative on it, not the Body number from the cowl tag. No way an L78 VIN and body number are the same. Giant red flag goes up if thats the case. Lets see a picture of the cowl tag and the engine stamping if you have them.

There seems to be more 67Zs around than 67 L78s. Even at 1138 I believe many were destroyed because of the power they had. Buyers were not used to that kind of power with those small bias tires. The Orig owner of the L78 I have traded in a 65 impala and he said he wasn't ready for that kind of power. Many also had drum brakes and manual steering (4 turns lock to lock) . Nothing quick about that. With 67zs selling at 250,000.00 these days I believe you are misinformed if you think one of these cars are only worth 30k

There seems to be more 67Zs around than 67 L78s. Even at 1138 I believe many were destroyed because of the power they had. Buyers were not used to that kind of power with those small bias tires. The Orig owner of the L78 I have traded in a 65 impala and he said he wasn't ready for that kind of power. Many also had drum brakes and manual steering (4 turns lock to lock) . Nothing quick about that. With 67zs selling at 250,000.00 these days I believe you are misinformed if you think one of these cars are only worth 30k
I said 30k, if it was missing the original drivetrain and was needing restoration still....I could be quite low on my number, but I think some others are quite high on theirs as well, again, for a non numbers matching car in need of work.

Colors and options also play a big part in the value. You haven't told us any of that..

With a late intro, 375hp Camaro was a difficult car to get even in 1967.
With only 1138 produced that was less then 2 per dealer.
Grumpy Jenkins Super Stock 375hp Camaro drag car did very well so I bet a lot of drag racing fans tried to order them.
I guess most of them went to hi po dealers. Yenko had about 50 of them.

DA GRUMP
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The engine should have a VIN derivative on it, not the Body number from the cowl tag. No way an L78 VIN and body number are the same. Giant red flag goes up if thats the case. Lets see a picture of the cowl tag and the engine stamping if you have them.

Not sure what your referring to as a vin derivative. The 67 Camaros are the only year that a cowl tag has all the options listed that were placed on the car from the factory. 68`s and 69`s do not. All I can say is my engine # is the same as the body # listed on the cowl tag and built in Norwood. Just exactly what is your question about the car? It HAS everything that the tag defines. It`s not a restored piece. The complete original black paint is still on it, however I was tempted several years ago to repaint faded areas.

New info. I found the # you refered to on the door jam and that does march the engine # and not the body #, I apologize.

What Mark is saying, is the orriginal engine stamp wouldn't have the body number from the cowl tag, it should have the last half of the VIN number of the car stamped on it from the factory. Mark is well aware of what is on cowl tags from all 3 year models.

Not sure what your referring to as a vin derivative. The 67 Camaros are the only year that a cowl tag has all the options listed that were placed on the car from the factory. 68`s and 69`s do not. All I can say is my engine # is the same as the body # listed on the cowl tag and built in Norwood. Just exactly what is your question about the car? It HAS everything that the tag defines. It`s not a restored piece. The complete original black paint is still on it, however I was tempted several years ago to repaint faded areas.

The body number from the cowl tag is not what is on the engine, the VIN is. Is there a chance the VIN and body #'s are the same?

If your engine has the same number thats on the cowl tag, and the cowl tag body number is the same as the VIN then the cowl tag is a fake, which would throw the whole car into question.

The engine block should have a number like 17Nxxxxxx where the X's match the last 6 numbers of your VIN. The engine assembly date is just fine for a car with a VIN of 124377N232290. But the body number is wrong. The tag has to be a repro.

vin derivative is serial part of vin number 232290 stamped on engine pad

Does your car have the same number in three places?
the serial part of vin number stamped in the door tag
the "NORxxxxxx" number stamped into the trim tag
and same number on engine pad

vin derivative is serial part of vin number 232290 stamped on engine pad

Does your car have the same number in three places?
the serial part of vin number stamped in the door tag
the "NORxxxxxx" number stamped into the trim tag
and same number on engine pad

Sorry men, I have three of those BB suckers and I was looking in the wrong place. On top of that the correct cowl # is NOR 132336 {body}. The vin inside the left door jam has The N232290, which is the same as the engine # and makes me feel a lot better. My thanks to everyone.
Wally Knoch

I don't know of any '67 Z's that have sold for $250K with the exception of maybe a famous T/A Race car. Two recent sales of number 1 cars were both $150K. The fact is that L78's aren't as popular or as desirable as a '67 Z and that's why they don't bring nearly the same money. They are absolute beasts and I do want another one, but my guess is that a number one '67 L78 is probably $75K or so. There have been a few on ebay in the past 6 months in driver condition and if I recall correctly, the most one brought was $40ish. I think a complete and not rusty project car would be $30K - $40K tops...anymore than this and you would be upside down after the resto.

I agree with Mark (saved me a lot of typing).

Two bulls were sitting on a hill overlooking the herd of cows below. The strong young bull (Z28) says to the much larger old bull (L78) "lets run down there and breed one of those cows". The old bull (L78) replies "why dont we just walk down there and breed them all".
Sorry moderators I'm just in a strange philosophical mood tonight :)

I am going to look at the car tomorrow evening. I was a little curious to why a car on ebay only sold for $32,000 and it looks like a nice car? Any ideas?

Just copy and paste the address below into your address bar. I wasn't sure how to make it a clickable link, sorry.

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