View Full Version : Radiator support rubber and fender shims.


Satatic
Sep 6th, 06, 02:42 PM
Ok I bolted my whole front end together becuase I'm sick of messing up with bodylines. Now I got everything lined up, got a stright body line front to back. What I did was set my fenders on and put bolts in just to hold them in place then put the two fron pieces on and squared up the fornt end that way. Then bolted it to the radiator support. Then I put a screw jack under the lower valance and lifted it up untill my lines were perfect. Here is a picture of the result.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/satatic/68camaro/frontend/P1050127-1.jpg

I have made marks on the picture, yellow is the size of the rubber thing the radiator support sits on. Red is the size of the gap between the rubber support and the frame. Whats the deal? I just found these thing in a box that came with the car and hammered them intop the radiator support maybe they are not even the right ones.

Then also my shims for the fenders.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/satatic/68camaro/frontend/P1050128.jpg

To the left is the gap I need to take up slack in. To the right is the whole stack of fender shims that came with my front end sheet metal hardware kit. :confused: It looks like all those shims will be used just to fill one gap, and there is 4 gaps! I was thinking about just buting some round stock and cutting my shims out of that. Rather then fooling around with a stack of washers. Or did I miss something and there is soposed to be no gap to fill?

madmax87
Sep 6th, 06, 03:04 PM
It looks like your missing the lower rubber bushing. You need one on top like you have and then there is another one under the support that sits on the frame rail.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g136/Caman355/MVC-014F-1.jpg

show
Sep 6th, 06, 07:07 PM
My guess is the subframe is tipped a little where it's bolted to the body. A little to tight to the floor in back and / or a little to big of a gap at the front (or middle) mount. Of course then the further forward you go with the subframe angling down and the body up and you end up with the gaps your seeing. I would loosen the rear body mounts and find a slightly larger rubber bushing to fix the angle.

Satatic
Sep 6th, 06, 07:48 PM
Ummm theres been some modification to the subframe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/satatic/68camaro/9-14-06/P1050084.jpg

I don't think any adjusting can happen.

show
Sep 7th, 06, 06:30 AM
And a very wise modification it is. What kind of subframe bushings are you using, stock, solid etc.? I still think it would be possible to take the middle ones and modify them, maybe use a different kind or material, and tighten the gap between the body and subframe to fix the angle. When I did mine I used Jeep body mounting rubber for the bushings. It's made for mounting fiberglass bodies onto the jeeps frame. It comes in a 2 ft long tube, is quite hard rubber, and with a miter saw can be cut to the exact thickness you need. Costs maybe 25.00

Satatic
Sep 7th, 06, 07:49 AM
I'm gonna buy the radiator bushing kit and see how things look after that. I think the bushing that is in there isn't even for that. The body bushings look stock to me. Definatly new but stock looking. Now if I replace the radiator support bushings with new ones that I know are for that and there is still a gap can I juse fill it a bit with big washers or is that gonna mean trouble down the road? Cause the subframe connector is fully welded into the subframe and recessed through the floor and also fully welded to that.

show
Sep 7th, 06, 08:00 AM
I think you'd be fine doing that. I do think you'll need to make something to fill the larger gap. Just using steel washers might give you a rust problem later. A piece of hard rubber cut to fit or a spacer made out of aluminum might be be better but I can't think of any other problems there would be. Your front end might be riding 1/2 to 1" higher then stock. Just tell everyone your running big block springs ;)

Satatic
Sep 7th, 06, 07:16 PM
I measured the gap from subframe to core support. 1.5 inches on drivers side and about 1.25 inches on the passenger side.