Well, I hope that I can get the roof on within the next two weeks. It's slow going when your doing most the work yourself. Here's a picture of the front of the shop and the attic trusses.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/STEVEDONNIA/PDR_1425.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/STEVEDONNIA/PDR_1423.jpg

:thumbsup: Wow - looking great Steve!

Looks like it's so big it even has it's own address and mailbox ;)
But you'd better hurry - I think I hear rain ... :D

Man, I wish I had the room to build mine that big. Looks like we're in a race and you're winning!
http://www.67rs-ss.net/garage/trusses/truss3.jpg

:eek: Wow thats huge.....looks good, I'm jealous:)

Man, I wish I had the room to build mine that big. Looks like we're in a race and you're winning!
http://www.67rs-ss.net/garage/trusses/truss3.jpg

I thought everything was big in Texas:thumbsup: Your shop looks good, keep up the good work.

If you have more pics of your build, I'd be interested in seeing them. Perhaps just link to the album where they all are. Thanks Steve.

If you have more pics of your build, I'd be interested in seeing them. Perhaps just link to the album where they all are. Thanks Steve.

Just let me know what pictures you would want and if you have any questions, just ask.

I have not taken that many pictures of the shop, just the ones on here and a few of when the floor was done. I am currently putting lookouts on so that I can hang the fascia boards. I can take pictures of areas that may be of interest to you, let me know.

No particular interest Steve in any definate areas. I was just curious if you had more pics of the build. :)

As you can see from my pic, that my build stalled out for a few weeks and the lumber has already yellowed quite a bit. You can really see the difference from the building and that bracing board I have nailed up from when I put the last gable truss up there, and also in comparison to your building picture. I'm going down today to order all of the siding and roofing materials and hope to have that part all done in the next two weeks.

dont forget the hurricane clips that tie the rafters to the top rim boards. They are a piece of heavy guage sheetmetal with a 90 degree twist that allows you to nail it to the side of the rafter and then to the edge if the top plate. They help hold the roof in high winds. I never heard of them till we built 9 years ago but they make sense and so cheap and easy to install. :)

dont forget the hurricane clips that tie the rafters to the top rim boards. They are a piece of heavy guage sheetmetal with a 90 degree twist that allows you to nail it to the side of the rafter and then to the edge if the top plate. They help hold the roof in high winds. I never heard of them till we built 9 years ago but they make sense and so cheap and easy to install. :)


In Oregon, they give you the hurricane clips when you get the trusses. It's just good insurance to have them on.

After nine years, you should be ready to build again:)

I'm going down today to order all of the siding and roofing materials and hope to have that part all done in the next two weeks.

It looks like the race is on. I don't think I will be ready to put siding on in two weeks, but I am going to try to get it dried in by the first week in October.

Are you going to finish the inside with insulation and drywall? I am not looking forward to drywalling this thing, especially the lid:clonk:

That looks great! are you using the top section for storage? by your pics it looks like you will have a lot of room up there..:thumbsup:

Man, one day I will have something like that. After a couple years of working on the car in the sun gets tiring real quick.

That looks great! are you using the top section for storage? by your pics it looks like you will have a lot of room up there..:thumbsup:

It will have a 16x60 ft. room at the top. The sides of the attic trusses only go up to 5'8", but being that I am only 5'8" it works out fine:) It stands over eight feet tall in the middle of the attic truss. I don't build anything without attic trusses. It cost about $3.00 a square ft. for the attic space, very cheap. I plan to put all my extra parts and small construction stuff up there and out of my working space. I also have the old shop that I will re-do after this one is done.

It looks like the race is on. I don't think I will be ready to put siding on in two weeks, but I am going to try to get it dried in by the first week in October.

Are you going to finish the inside with insulation and drywall? I am not looking forward to drywalling this thing, especially the lid:clonk:

The hurricane clips/strips are only 40cents each at Home Depot...I am using them even though we don't get many hurricanes in Dallas :D

Steve, Like I said I'm "hoping!!" to get it done, that doesn't mean I will :D This one has taken me a long long time. My permit expires on Oct. 10th so....I can renew it but it'll cost me another $80 to extend it. I'd rather use that $80 on other things though so I'm going to try like hell to finish it, but it's not looking too good since I haven't even planned out the electrical. You also have a couple more issues facing you. One, you're building a bigger building; and two, you're installing wall sheathing which I am not which will take drying it in a bit longer. I'm just going to put up a vapor barrior and put up the fiber cement vertical siding panels directly to the studs so it should be quicker for me. I hope you went out and got you a good framing nailer and roofing nailer. Man those have made all the difference in the world with this build!

It will have a 16x60 ft. room at the top. The sides of the attic trusses only go up to 5'8", but being that I am only 5'8" it works out fine:) It stands over eight feet tall in the middle of the attic truss. I don't build anything without attic trusses. It cost about $3.00 a square ft. for the attic space, very cheap. I plan to put all my extra parts and small construction stuff up there and out of my working space. I also have the old shop that I will re-do after this one is done.

The attic trusses are really a great idea. For me, I couldn't build my garage taller than 15' due to city codes where I live based on the footprint size of the building and it's construction. If I went over 500 sq feet, I could have made it up to 25' tall, but then I would have had to build it out of brick, because it has to match the house construction when over 500 sq ft. So...with only 15' height to work with, I went with 10.5' walls and 4.5' tall scissor trusses (vaulted inside). No attic space for me!! I wanted the most interior height I could get for a lift.

The hurricane clips/strips are only 40cents each at Home Depot...I am using them even though we don't get many hurricanes in Dallas :D

Steve, Like I said I'm "hoping!!" to get it done, that doesn't mean I will :D This one has taken me a long long time. My permit expires on Oct. 10th so....I can renew it but it'll cost me another $80 to extend it. I'd rather use that $80 on other things though so I'm going to try like hell to finish it, but it's not looking too good since I haven't even planned out the electrical. You also have a couple more issues facing you. One, you're building a bigger building; and two, you're installing wall sheathing which I am not which will take drying it in a bit longer. I'm just going to put up a vapor barrior and put up the fiber cement vertical siding panels directly to the studs so it should be quicker for me. I hope you went out and got you a good framing nailer and roofing nailer. Man those have made all the difference in the world with this build!

Does your permit continue on if you get an inspection? In Oregon, if we can get an inspection it extends it out another six months. You can only get so many inspections before they start charging you again.

Are you doing the electrical yourself? It shouldn't be to bad on a shop. I've wires several buildings that I've built and it goes pretty quick.

You are correct on the sheeting thing. I could have gone with 2' on center studs and just put the siding right over the studs, but I was going 12' tall so it needed more brace paneling on the corners. I don't mind doing the sheeting, it will cost me about $1,200 more in material and more time, but that's fine with me. I do have a good framing nailer and for the roof, I am paying my brother-in-law $1,200 to put the roof on, plus material. My back can't do it anymore. I used to own a roofing company with him years ago, but his back is much better than mine and he can roof much faster:D I figure that's pretty cheap labor.

If all goes well, sheeting should be on by the end of next week, we will see.

Hopefully we can motivate each other to get the shops done soon:thumbsup:

With the total height of your building and the additional weight on the walls, the sheathing isn't a bad idea. Are you going to put vertical panel siding or horizontal lap siding on it? I'm going to have to do my roof myself. All of the materials for the siding and roofing got delivered this morning. I could pay someone to do it, and I have the money, but everytime I think about paying someone to do something on the garage, all I can think about is what that cash will buy for the Camaro when I get back to working on it lol. I do want to do the electrical myself, and I've run a lot of 110 and 220 cabling around my home for things like a kitchen remodel and new compressor wiring etc, but the part that I'm concerned about is running cable to the new building from my existing home. I've never researched subpanels and underground wiring codes. I'll figure it out either way :)

The permits here go from beginning of job till the end. For my building, I have to have 4 inspections, and you just schedule them the day before you need them. I already had the first one done which was the forms for the slab before it got poured. The 2nd and 3rd will be done at the same time which is a frame and an electrical rough inspection. The fourth is the final inspection. They don't renew or push out the permit time frame based on inspections at all. Since this is a non-occupied building, there are a lot less inspections than if it was a home, like no energy inspections etc. I also don't have any plumbing going in so that helps with one less inspection. Either way, if I don't finish it by Oct. 10th, I'll have to pay the $80 or whatever it is to extend it further, I just hate throwing away cash that would buy more parts for the Camaro!!

Hrm...end of next week eh? I better get busy! I'm planning on putting the first 8ft of siding on all the way around, then getting the roof on. I want at least the one row of siding to add some structural bracing to the walls before I climb up there with a ton of roofing materials. Once I get the roof shingled I'll finish the top half of the siding and the trim. I'm off the next 3 days so hopefully I'll have quite a bit done. I'll let ya know! On your mark...get set... :D

On your mark...get set... :D

The sheeting is going on the next four days and the roof goes on Monday:hurray:

How's it going on your end?

Hey guys great looking shops. Don't be in too big of a hurry to get it completed. Because no mater how big it is you will have it full and won't hardly be able to walk around it before you know it.LOL I keep building on and just collect more STUFF.

The sheeting is going on the next four days and the roof goes on Monday:hurray:

How's it going on your end?

I've gotten most of the siding up. Hoping to have most of the roofing done by this weekend. We'll see though. It rained hard for half of my weekend so I couldn't finish the siding, and it's looking like rain again for this weekend. Sorry for the dark pictures, it was late when I took them.
http://www.67rs-ss.net/garage/siding/Siding1.jpg
http://www.67rs-ss.net/garage/siding/Siding2.jpg
http://www.67rs-ss.net/garage/siding/Siding3.jpg

Looking very nice.

I will take a picture this weekend when it looks like I've accomplished more:thumbsup: I've been doing all the vent blocking, ladder framing and putting the fascia (sp) board on. All that little time consuming stuff. It's tough to hold up a 12' board by yourself. I had to make little hangers to help out:clonk:

Looking very nice.

I will take a picture this weekend when it looks like I've accomplished more:thumbsup: I've been doing all the vent blocking, ladder framing and putting the fascia (sp) board on. All that little time consuming stuff. It's tough to hold up a 12' board by yourself. I had to make little hangers to help out:clonk:

Trust me I know what you mean. I have to hang the ladder for the rake(gable overhang) this weekend and I'm not looking forward to it. I am anxious to get start sheathing the roof though. It'll be nice to have some cover over my head! :)

Trust me I know what you mean. I have to hang the ladder for the rake(gable overhang) this weekend and I'm not looking forward to it :)

What's with the ladder, I just hang out over the top and take my chances. Just make sure the life insurance is up:)

What's with the ladder, I just hang out over the top and take my chances. Just make sure the life insurance is up:)

lol, I meant the rake itself, some folks call the rake a ladder because of the way it looks :)

Hey Steve! How's the progress on the garage going?

It's coming along a little slower than I want, but there is progress being made. I am going to post new pictures of the shop after the roof is finished next Wednesday. The roofing company shorted me nine square when they delivered my roofing, so the rest will be here next Tuesday. It's almost dried in.

How is yours going, any pics?

You guys be careful. I have had 2 friends fall off or fall through their roofs/trusses a little over a week ago. No major injuries fortunately. Bruised ribs and knees.
Steve you sure lucked out on weather for your build lately eh? keep up the good work guys :cool:

I have the roof completely built (sheathing, subfascia and fascias up). I haven't started putting down felt and shingles. I'm starting on those Sunday. I've gotten pretty lucky with weather too. Are you going to sheet rock your interior? I am going to eventually, but long after any final inspections I'll have. All I have left really is to felt/shingle the roof, finish the top half of the siding, electrical, install doors and windows, and finish the exterior trim. Sounds like a lot but it's really not. I'm anxious to see your pics. I haven't taken any lately, but I will this weekend.

Sounds like your getting it done. We are going to insulate and sheet rock the interior, both top and bottom. My wife says that I can't put anything in the shop until it is completely done. I have to agree with her, I'm sure that if I started putting stuff in it before it was finished, I would never complete it.

I am going to finish the outside and get my final and then do the electrical and interior stuff. I have been looking for garage doors and it is going to run about $3,800 for three of them, ouch!

Good luck getting the roof on this weekend. I'm going out this morning and working on some of the small stuff (blocking), before my son's football game.

You guys be careful. I have had 2 friends fall off or fall through their roofs/trusses a little over a week ago. No major injuries fortunately. Bruised ribs and knees.
Steve you sure lucked out on weather for your build lately eh? keep up the good work guys :cool:

Jeff, I was about two feet away from my brother-in-law when he fell off a roof we where working on about 10 years ago. He landed between two pieces of rebar that was sticking up about four feet. He was able to turn enough in the air before hitting the ground that only his hand hit the rebar. His hand went about two feet down on the rebar and he had to pull it up off the rebar:angry: It left a big hole for the doctors to close up. I know a lot of people who have fallen of roofs and am very careful when I am on them, thanks for your concern.

Nice looking shops both of you. How about a few details, Please? What size are your shops (24 X 24), (24 X 30)? Did you buy them as "kits" or did you buy plans? Without getting too snoopy, Can you give a ballpark figure on the cost of materials and concrete? I backed out of building my shop a couple years ago but, now I am officially out of space and NEED to build a shop. The wife just bought a new car and want s to park inside so, I have the backing/support for a new shop (or should I say she is highly suggesting I get on with it before too long). I am looking at building a 24' X 30' (no smaller than 24 X 24). I am limited on height (cuty code) I can't go higher than 14' to the mid line on the roof (10' walls would probably be max if I want a peaked roof). I didn't think about going with a slanted roof that may allow me to get a functional 4 pole lift inside. Any details you can provide would be great. I will be doing the work myself as well. I priced a Tuff Shed garage and they want $32,000 for a 24' X 30' complete with paint and concrete. I just think they are a little cheap with the materials they use (20 year roof, 7 year limited warranty).

Hey guys, thought of something for you to do if you have not done it yet...take your scrap 2x6, 2x8, 2x10 boards and cut them to fit between studs on the walls all along the shop just like you would do for curtain rods in a home. Do it at apox 6' or 8' level and again around 4' level. Make notes or photo them in place to remember where they are. Now you have strong surfaet beneath your sheetrock to bolt cabinets and workbench to, as well as strong area to install hangers and such for tools or TV/stereo wall mounts or anything else you want up off the floor and secure. It wont affect your insulation either. I forgot to do this and regret it. Otherwise you always have to look for the studs to mount something and it might not be in the place you really want it. :thumbsup:

Nice looking shops both of you. How about a few details, Please? What size are your shops (24 X 24), (24 X 30)? Did you buy them as "kits" or did you buy plans? Without getting too snoopy, Can you give a ballpark figure on the cost of materials and concrete? I backed out of building my shop a couple years ago but, now I am officially out of space and NEED to build a shop. The wife just bought a new car and want s to park inside so, I have the backing/support for a new shop (or should I say she is highly suggesting I get on with it before too long). I am looking at building a 24' X 30' (no smaller than 24 X 24). I am limited on height (cuty code) I can't go higher than 14' to the mid line on the roof (10' walls would probably be max if I want a peaked roof). I didn't think about going with a slanted roof that may allow me to get a functional 4 pole lift inside. Any details you can provide would be great. I will be doing the work myself as well. I priced a Tuff Shed garage and they want $32,000 for a 24' X 30' complete with paint and concrete. I just think they are a little cheap with the materials they use (20 year roof, 7 year limited warranty).

Royce,
I am going to spend about $37,000 on the shop. It will be 36x60 with 12' walls. I am using 2x6 studs 16" on center. I also ordered attic trusses and they cost $5,500 (included in total cost of $37,000). I put osb sheathing on before I will side it. I am putting a 30 yr architectural roof on, board and bat siding. It will be insulated and sheet rocked upstairs and down stairs, and it will have 200 amp service. Now this is doing it all myself, so it's just material with a little labor. I did have someone pour my slab after I got it dug out and formed up. I would say that I have about $10,000 in backhoe work, gravel, forms, and cement/ w labor (49 yards of concrete). This was by far the largest expense on the shop.

Yours should be far less if you do it yourself and I guess about the same cost if you hire someone to build it. You could put a lift in if you use scissor trusses. They would give you an extra few feet in the middle section.

Good luck and let us know if you decide to build?

Hey guys, thought of something for you to do if you have not done it yet...take your scrap 2x6, 2x8, 2x10 boards and cut them to fit between studs on the walls all along the shop just like you would do for curtain rods in a home. Do it at apox 6' or 8' level and again around 4' level. Make notes or photo them in place to remember where they are. Now you have strong surfaet beneath your sheetrock to bolt cabinets and workbench to, as well as strong area to install hangers and such for tools or TV/stereo wall mounts or anything else you want up off the floor and secure. It wont affect your insulation either. I forgot to do this and regret it. Otherwise you always have to look for the studs to mount something and it might not be in the place you really want it. :thumbsup:

Thanks for the reminder. I do this when I build a bathroom for the towel hangers, where the door handle hits the wall, and if it's commercial we put them in the walls for grab bars.
Thanks

Thanks for the details, I didn't realize your shop was that huge. That's more than double the size I am looking at.

Royce, I don't have time right now to get into a lot of details, but go have a look at the thread I originally started for my garage. I feel kinda guilty posting so much in Steve's thread, but we're kinda kindred spirits at the moment :)
Here's the thread that has quite a few posts. I need to update it. If any of the answers to your questions aren't in there like pricing etc, ask and I'll update the thread and answer you. Steve is undoubtedly taking on a much bigger project than I am, so it's easier for me to keep up with him :) I'm also not spending nearly so much either.
Edit: Forgot the thread link: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84315

I had a 24x28 shop built last fall, 10 foot ceilings with attic rafters, I have an area 8 feet high x 15' wide and 28' deep wide open upstairs for storage. The cost for framing, concrete, siding, 2 36x48 windows, 16'x7' garage door, a walk in door, roofing and gutters was $16750.00. Since then I insulated, wired, finished the ceiling and walls with OSB, hung 8 8ft flourescent lights and finished the small bathroom, (4'x5') and wash tub along with a few other little things and have put another $6000.00 for all these things.
Ron

Christopher, I chcked out your thread but, did see any expenses listed. The shop looks great though.

Ron,
Your shop sounds close to what I am looking for 24' X 30'. I'm sure with the labor rate and general cost of living here in Ca, I won't be able to match your price. If I do it myself I should be able to come close. I can do the wiring myself as well. I would only need help with the foundation.

Royce, consider you being the 'general' contractor. Hire subs to do the concrete and framing and roofing, you do the wires and interior stuff. Save 20% at least. I generaled my house and it wasnt that tough if you know the subs. ;)

Hey Steve, how's progress going on that shop?
I updated the thread on mine finally:
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84315

Hey Steve, how's progress going on that shop?
I updated the thread on mine finally:
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84315

I saw that you have the power in:thumbsup: Is the roof on yet? I'm not sure I was looking at the right pictures?

I have been building a friends shop for him the last week and a half, so progress is slow on mine. My roof is on, but needs the vent-a- ridge put on. I have the stairs all cut and sitting in place. I need to get the rest of the sheathing put up this weekend. It takes some time to carry a full sheet of wood up the ladder (16ft) put it in place and nail it, without falling and killing myself. It's hard enough just on the 12' sides, let alone the gable ends.

I WILL put updated pictures on today!!!!

I met a guy last week that has a great looking 67 convertible, and it just motivated me to get the shop done so that I can work on my 67 Vert. He is willing to come over and help out if needed on the car, which is great for motivation.

Another thing came to mind when you said Vent-a-ridge... That is pretty common building code attic venting but a study by U of Wisc. at Madison found that in SNOW climates, the ridge vents lost half their venting ability when covered with snow. In Minn. many builders are finding moisture in attics in winter when there should be none. When I built I put in both. End to end ridge vents for summer and 3 Twirly Bird type vents on the house and 2 on the garage for winter venting. The Twirly Birds move a ton more air when moving and they even move more air than a ridge vent when there is no movement since they are so open in their design. Just a thought :) 2cents worth

Another thing came to mind when you said Vent-a-ridge... That is pretty common building code attic venting but a study by U of Wisc. at Madison found that in SNOW climates, the ridge vents lost half their venting ability when covered with snow. In Minn. many builders are finding moisture in attics in winter when there should be none. When I built I put in both. End to end ridge vents for summer and 3 Twirly Bird type vents on the house and 2 on the garage for winter venting. The Twirly Birds move a ton more air when moving and they even move more air than a ridge vent when there is no movement since they are so open in their design. Just a thought :) 2cents worth

Not sure what twirly birds are? Are you talking about gable vents? Thankfully we don't have much snow in this area. It's good hear how other people in different parts of the country do things. I have a brother-in-law that is building in a snowy part of the state and this is good information for him, thanks.

I call them whirly bird but they are actually called Wind Turbines. They move with the slightest breeze, pulling heat and moisture out of the attic area. Very cheap and easy to install. You would benefit from them in summer with faster heat getting out of the attic. :)
http://www.brainerd.net/~knudsen/69RS/Misc.Stuff/windturbine.jpg

Here are a couple pictures of the shop. I will try to put a couple more on later. With what's been done

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/STEVEDONNIA/PDR_1534.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/STEVEDONNIA/PDR_1531.jpg

Holy hat, that is bigger than my house!

Holy hat, that is bigger than my house!

It's only 3000 sq ft with the attic space:) It is larger than my house.

Man that's looking awesome Steve. My garage looks like an outhouse compared to that! Very nice work! Hint about carrying plywood or osb sheets up the ladder.....get a C clamp or two, and clamp one down along the long side and it gives you a handle to drag the sheet up beside you on the ladder.

Man that's looking awesome Steve. My garage looks like an outhouse compared to that! Very nice work! Hint about carrying plywood or osb sheets up the ladder.....get a C clamp or two, and clamp one down along the long side and it gives you a handle to drag the sheet up beside you on the ladder.

Chris,

I was putting a piece of osb where the green ladder is and I was at the top of the ladder (last step)when the osb popped out and knocked me off the ladder. It was about seven feet up. I had to jump about 6 feet out away from the wall and the board came down after me. That is the first time in 20 years I have ever fallen off a ladder and it scared the crap out of me. Thank God that nothing happened, except a few scratches. My wife saw me walking up to the house and she could tell something happened by grin on my face.

Do you have the lid on your shop, I couldn't tell by your pics. I wasn't sure if I was looking at the right pictures.

eek! I'm glad you're ok. I was fortunate to have no problems falling off of any ladders or the roof building mine lol. I do have the roof and all the siding on now. All I have left is the trim, paint, electrical, and the large garage door left to do. I'm not going to finish out the inside for a while. Eventually I'll insulate and sheet rock the interior but I'm in no hurry to get that done.

Glad you're OK. The shop's looking great!

very nice wish i had one!!

Royce, I don't have time right now to get into a lot of details, but go have a look at the thread I originally started for my garage. I feel kinda guilty posting so much in Steve's thread, but we're kinda kindred spirits at the moment :)
Here's the thread that has quite a few posts. I need to update it. If any of the answers to your questions aren't in there like pricing etc, ask and I'll update the thread and answer you. Steve is undoubtedly taking on a much bigger project than I am, so it's easier for me to keep up with him :) I'm also not spending nearly so much either.
Edit: Forgot the thread link: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84315

Christropher,

How's your shop going. Mine is coming along slow. I have been doing more running around than anything. I have the stairs in and some of the second floor.

Let me see some pics.

Steve

I haven't really been working on it. I all lack is the large garage door, electrical, paint and trim. I'm not sheeting the interior until probably next spring as it's not really important at the moment. I'll probably have the electrical done here in the next week I think. The door on the other hand might actually have to wait. I've got a few birthdays and then Christmas coming up quicker than I'd hoped :D

That's a SHOP?!
It's bigger than my house!

Looking good Steve.

That's a SHOP?!
It's bigger than my house!

Looking good Steve.

I always thought shops should be larger than your house:thumbsup:

I figure between 4 or 5 cars, quads, lawn mowers, and all the spare parts I need that much room. After putting all that stuff in there I still needed working room. It will have a 36x36 storage in the back and 24x36 in front for work. The top attic space will be 16x60 and will have an office and tons of storage for small parts. The old shop becomes the construction site and paint area.

The sooner I get the shop done, the sooner the 67 vert gets the front taken off and motor rebuilt.