What do you think of this strange looking thing. It has some really old local history and may be for sale soon. I dont think its a real motion car,But a 69 427/ 435 hp car done in the early 70's with all motion stuff. It needs a complete resto and is engine delete but it aint half bad. If its a clone or should i say a "MOTIONED" corvette, does it have any significant value ???Its got front and rear flares,wackey opel like nose, a cool looking hood,6500rpm redline tach,427/435hp 11.1 compression console plate,aluminum flip up gas cap,and is a hugger orange car i believe. Word is this car was a terror on the streets in the 70's and has been this way since 1972.



bob

looks like a motion vette. it maybe the real deal, in any case it looks like a L88 judging my the 435 HP rating. its a good valuable find regardless if its a motion vette or not. realy the only person who can confirm that would be joal rosen him self. my gut feelling is that its a real motion car, keep use posted or at least me. i LOVE these cars

Oh man. I'd be all over that! Reminds me of my friends old L-88 convert. Awesome cars.

How much do you think that would sell fer?

I would see if there are any numbers on the deck of the block... according to the tab by the shifter it is an original 427/435 HP car.That can be easliy faked ..though it looks aged ! That means it should have three duces.. here is the motor in mine so it should look like this and if it is an original 435 HP car it would have some significant value...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/ChevyThunder/ascan0001.jpg

It has no engine or trans. Its definately aged :thumbsup:

What does the 6500 redline tach mean ??? what about fuel line ??? anything else under the hood a givaway ????



bob

Be ready to spend tons of bucks to get it in good shape.

Be ready to spend tons of bucks to get it in good shape.


NOT ME !!!!!! I hate corvettes. Always did and always will. I've got more fiberglass in my lungs than anything else and those corvette guys are....... well............. Unique.

I'm strictly looking to turn and burn. Let the next guy do his thing. Problem is i dont know much about them to make a decision on what its worth. To the right guy it would make a real cool project.

But that guy isnt me :thumbsup:


bob

I would see if there are any numbers on the deck of the block... according to the tab by the shifter it is an original 427/435 HP car.That can be easliy faked ..though it looks aged ! That means it should have three duces.. here is the motor in mine so it should look like this and if it is an original 435 HP car it would have some significant value...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/ChevyThunder/ascan0001.jpg

Van, I just run across this exact tri power manifold and carbs on a 51 chev this weekend. It is the original stuff from what I can see, it is missing the original air cleaner, and it has a funky fuel log on it. It appears to have been chromed or polished, some time ago. He said he want 2,500 for the set up, is that anywhere close to a deal? Thanks Mike.

Could the intake be UNpolished? Maybe sandblasted? I wonder if that would restore it to original-like surface?

Could the intake be UNpolished? Maybe sandblasted? I wonder if that would restore it to original-like surface?

That would be my hope as well. I apologize in advance for adding the manifold question on this thread, it just hit me staring at one on Vans car.:waving:

Check the birdcage and frame caps on that badboy before you do anything. Also body modded Covettes knocks the value in about half. I had a 69 vert with a Datona kit on it and no rust and gor $5500 for it 2 years ago in about the same shape as the orange car. Try http://www.corvetteforum.com/ I am a member and some really good info there.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/317000-317999/317489_74_full.jpg

If it is a 'motion car' then it falls into a VERY different category, than your typical 'body modded' corvette.

Hey, anybody remember 'corvette summer' ?

If it is a 'motion car' then it falls into a VERY different category, than your typical 'body modded' corvette.

Hey, anybody remember 'corvette summer' ?

I understand that, but what are the odds of it be a real one and getting proof would be another can o worms

Theres a Motion ZL1 vette around here locally that looks to be in similar shape, but not a bug-eye and dont think it has the original engine in it. The console plate looks different, actually says "ZL1" on it.

There's a Motion corvette here

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/221386/page/0/fpart/5/vc/1/nt/28

JD

Looks like the gills on the real one are extended outward and the one we are looking at here has gills like a standard 69.

Motion used to put SS427 emblems on the hood and rear of the Corvettes so it would have a bunch of holes in odd places. Motion also sold parts including the front/light kit in a catolog so it could be a home built car.
What does the back window look like? Motion Phase III GT Corvettes had a custom fast back stlye back window also.

I believe that for a fee (maybe $1500.00) Joel Rosen will research his records and authenticate a Motion car. That is an old rumor so I don't know if it's true or even still applies. Also keep in mind that Motion converted customer's car and sold Motion parts. There were also serveral variations of the cars - side gills - rear windows - ect. I think the only real way to to verify the car would be to pay what ever the fee is now for Joel Rosen to go through his records and and come up with some proof. Even if it's not a real Motion car it may still be worth it to someone who always wanted to have a Motion car and can't afford the real thing - like a Yenko or Hemi clone.

Could the intake be UNpolished? Maybe sandblasted? I wonder if that would restore it to original-like surface?
Keep in mind not all tri-power big block manifolds are the same. '67 is angled higher in the rear so before you buy one make sure you're getting the manifold the car calls for. There is tons of stuff to know about these cars and it's real easy to get burned. Be carefull.

Pull gas tank down and look for build sheet....Dan

I agree - there is no one exact motion car...they were given different levels of treatment per the customers request/order. This makes it harder to determine on, but also really adds to the appeal of these machines.

Extensive documenting work will be required, through JR or other...

I feel though, that even if not built up by Motion - as in it was done by some guy who ordered a few parts from the Motion catalog and did his own thing up. To me that car still has value (perhaps to the right person) well beyond that of your typical body modded vette.

And if this car is an original 427 car...It has pretty great value indeed.

I feel a car that was built by some dude in his garage back in the day - with some parts ordered from Motion is darn near as cool as a 'real true' Motion car itself. I dont get all obsessed over ID numbers and paperwork. That's not what I enjoy about the sport.

I like the look, and 'make's old ladies tremble' power, image and attitude of the Motion cars....don't matter to me if some dude built it himself, or if JR did it.

Dont ask me why one that was built back in the day is more appealing to me than the same car built fresh in the 2000's....I guess I like the use and battle scars that show on an older vehicle.

One thing is for sure, my briefs are mighty tight lookn' at those pics of that beast. Darn crime it settn' like that.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/lotsayenkopics/Super%20Car%20Reunion%209/Friday/tn_DSCF5093.jpg

It doesn't; need to be a Motion car to be valuable if it is a real 427/435 HP car... you can also push the rubber aside at the fuel filler on the rear deck and possibly catch a glimpse of the buildsheet...

The three deuce set up is valuable.. but make sure it is the right one.. and things like original air cleaner and linkage at to that value. I would check Hemmings for the going price

If this is in NJ,with what I can see in the one picture showing the stacker hood scoop,stripes,flares would be a good sign to really research this car .I've learned many many things while researching my Motion car I found in NJ.Do your research on ownership history,very important!! Dan

Also Check glove box for paperwork and past owners name.
On the value of Motion cars…….. In general the value is higher if the car was bought new as a SS427 Phase III car where conversion was done on the new car. The value is lower if a used car was brought to Motion Performance and work was done later for the owner of his used car. There is a Motion Chevelle on ebay now that was built by Motion with nice paper but work order date is something like 1977-78. Still a cool car but not as high value as a Motion built car sold as new car. A home built car using Motion catalog parts will have lower value then Motion shop built. Motion Performance in Baldwin NY was still building cars and selling catalog parts into late 1980s.

Also Check glove box for paperwork and past owners name.
On the value of Motion cars…….. In general the value is higher if the car was bought new as a SS427 Phase III car where conversion was done on the new car. The value is lower if a used car was brought to Motion Performance and work was done later for the owner of his used car. There is a Motion Chevelle on ebay now that was built by Motion with nice paper but work order date is something like 1977-78. Still a cool car but not as high value as a Motion built car sold as new car. A home built car using Motion catalog parts will have lower value then Motion shop built. Motion Performance in Baldwin NY was still building cars and selling catalog parts into late 1980s.


can u post a link, i cant seam to fine it on ebay

Great Corvette, I have some experiance with Both Motion Corvettes and Joel Rosen, chances of this being a real one are slim, but I'd love to bring it back to life. Of those pictures of "real" motion corvettes, the red one with the stinger is real (Ray Penningtons Manta Ray), The yellow one is real (Dan Hayes/Ray Penningtons Moray, my old car, sold to Dan and Ray last year), the red one with the 427 on the back is a customer built Motion catalog car,
it is a great car but not a real BALDWIN MOTION car, but it was built "back in the day" by the original owner with Motion parts. These are three incredible cars.

Motion part where avalible through mail order , there's many adds from old magazines floating around .

I was at Joel's house in NY before he moved to Fl. He had 6 Motion cars there. 3 Corvettes, a Camaro, Mustang GT convertible, and SS Monte Aero Coupe. One guy bought the 3 Corvettes and the Camaro. I bought the Mustang GT convertible and SS Monte Aero Coupe. They were his and her Motion cars since new and used in the 80s Motion catologs. Joel was selling parts into the 80s so a home built 1960s car could have been built in the 60s-80s.
You have to do your homework when buying Motion cars.

The three corvettes were sold to a restaurant owner somewhere in the midwest for BIG dollars, if I'm right it was a phase three, a mako, and a "spider" or can am. The Phase three and the mako were bitchin, the can am I could do without.

I'd love to here more about your aero SS, neat car, the general could have done much more with it, I'm sure Joel took care of that. Ya know, with the cost of current detroit iron, lets say you bought a clapped out aero ss for nothing, put 25k into it, and drove it every day, how bad would that be? Life's to short to drive an econobox.

My 2002 daily driver regal has about 115k on it and has been to hell and back. I am threating my wife that when this one s@#$'s the bed, (which will happen fairly soon with the plastic intake manifold) that I am either building an every day hot rod OR I am buying a mid seventies caddilac for my every day ride. THESE are great cars that are under valued.

I'd love to here more about this car on this site. I am currently redoing a
35,000 mile 427/435 vette built at TAK's auto in denver useing Baldwin Motion parts (built back in 1968). Brutal car. Made my last Motion car feel like a 4 cylinder vega, it's brutal. I also have a hone-o-drive out of a 1969 Baldwin Motion vette. I am dying to build a clone Motion phase III or gt.

Larry would have loved to have found that car.

He was one of the TRUE Motion Vette people around

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/211284/Main/211284/#Post211284

There were probably a few clones of the Motion Corvette that was on the cover of Cars magazine. One on cover has the fastback window conversion. A guy who worked at Motion in the 70s told me he would see clones of Motion cars on LI back in the day. A friend of his had a white Corvette he painted the Motion type stripe on it in the 70s.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/MotionSS1/motiongt.jpg

here is the "Mrs Motion" car. 89 Mustang GT has Motion CI hood, side pipes, wing, Motion emblems. I thought it was funny that Joel set it up like an old 69 Motion Camaro. When we were leaving Mrs Motion came out to say good by to her old car and I had her and Joel sign the dash board.
Picture is taken on way home when we stoped at old Motion Performance building. My brother came with me and we had a great time talking with Joel and he showed us a bunch of stuff and he signed a bunch of stuff for us. It was a fun day.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v58/MotionSS1/mbu495.jpg

anybody know what happen to his cars? I've heard a bunch of different stuff

Anybody know what happen to his cars? I have heard all sorts of stories, but I have not seen the cars surface yet.

Bob
It dose look real ! :)
I think if it is real Motion Corvette made by Motion there should be a ID plate with the Motion name on it or some body just oder the parts and made there own.
Larry

Sold!!

is it a Motion Performance built car?