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Jeremy536
Nov 22nd, 06, 10:45 AM
Just wanted to pass the on word about a really informative article in Hot Rod Magazine. It is on air suspension, how it works and the benefits. It is in the January 07 issue. Check it out let me know what you think.

onovakind67
Nov 22nd, 06, 10:46 AM
Is there any advertising associated with it?

Jeremy536
Nov 22nd, 06, 12:02 PM
It does mention some of the company's that have supplied some of the equipment. However it is there to explain the advancements of air suspension and benefits. It also explains the different types. I just thought everyone interested might want to look at a new tech article.

camcojb
Nov 22nd, 06, 01:06 PM
Just wanted to pass the on word about a really informative article in Hot Rod Magazine. It is on air suspension, how it works and the benefits. It is in the January 07 issue. Check it out let me know what you think.


would this have anything to do with the fact that you work for RideTech, the air suspension company mentioned in the article? :sad: Why don't you guys do a comparison against a car with a full Hotchkis or similar suspension vs your system? You guys always compare to a stock musclecar suspension, which of course shows a huge improvement in handling, the stock suspension sucks.

This is no bash on you or your company, I think they have cool stuff. But I'd sure like to see a direct track and skidpad difference between your full suspension and say a DSE or Hotchkis setup; same car, same track, weather, etc.



Jody

Jeremy536
Nov 22nd, 06, 01:39 PM
Yeah, you are right I do work for Air Ride Tech. but the article is not a comparison of after market suspension. It is about the way it works and the different benefits you can get from it. I am not pushing anything I just thought it might be interesting reading. The best answer I can give you is that it is completely adjustable from inside the vehicle. No more crawling under it to change the spring rate just simply change it at the touch of a button inside the vehicle. Plus we always try to make direct bolt on kits to the car no cutting or welding to the car. This by no means is a bash on DSE or Hotchkis as a matter of fact I really like the Quadralink from DSE!

camcojb
Nov 22nd, 06, 01:51 PM
Yeah, you are right I do work for Air Ride Tech. but the article is not a comparison of after market suspension. It is about the way it works and the different benefits you can get from it. I am not pushing anything I just thought it might be interesting reading. The best answer I can give you is that it is completely adjustable from inside the vehicle. No more crawling under it to change the spring rate just simply change it at the touch of a button inside the vehicle. Plus we always try to make direct bolt on kits to the car no cutting or welding to the car. This by no means is a bash on DSE or Hotchkis as a matter of fact I really like the Quadralink from DSE!


Thanks Jeremy. Do you guys have any plans for a direct comparison against competing systems?

Jody

jannes_z-28
Nov 22nd, 06, 02:14 PM
Thanks Jeremy. Do you guys have any plans for a direct comparison against competing systems?

Jody

That would for sure be very interesting, I have guys over here asking about air suspension if it is better than a full spring suspension like Jody mentions. As it is now I don't have enough facts to give a good answer.

My personal opinion is that springs are better than air. However if you get the desired rideheight and hardness with a air setup it is up to the shocks to do the rest.

We often under value the importance of proper shock settings and performance. I have seen that Air Ride has adjustable shocks and them you have to crawl to adjust :D

Jan

Jeremy536
Nov 22nd, 06, 02:36 PM
Yes some we do want to do a direct comparison and some day we will. As to what is holding it up I do not know? One problem is that it can be very easy to manipulate the results. If the coilspring of choice is not correct then it will throw the results off! So trying to figure out exactly what we would test it against is not an easy choice. Or so I have been told. Also we have kits for so many cars and trucks where do we start. I know my vote is for the Camaro but I only have so much pull. And yes Jan you are correct in order to change the adjustment on the shocks you would still have to get to them. Sorry I was not trying to be misleading!!!

By the way have either one of you had a chance to read the article?

camcojb
Nov 22nd, 06, 02:56 PM
Yes some we do want to do a direct comparison and some day we will. As to what is holding it up I do not know? One problem is that it can be very easy to manipulate the results. If the coilspring of choice is not correct then it will throw the results off! So trying to figure out exactly what we would test it against is not an easy choice. Or so I have been told. Also we have kits for so many cars and trucks where do we start. I know my vote is for the Camaro but I only have so much pull. And yes Jan you are correct in order to change the adjustment on the shocks you would still have to get to them. Sorry I was not trying to be misleading!!!

By the way have either one of you had a chance to read the article?

I have and I had some good dialogue with Jeremy on another site I'm on. I now own Malitude which is a 64 Chevelle built by Mark Stielow. If you don't know, he's a GM suspension engineer and his cars work pretty well.

On this car he did Hotchkis stuff, but had a lot of swapping about to get the balance he wanted in the car. It rides and handles fine, but since I'm re-doing most everything in the car I was interested in how your system compared.

Other than ride height in-car adjustment (which I really don't need) Jeremy really didn't have any advantages for me to swap over.

Now if a guy hasn't modded his suspension, that's a different story.

yzf560
Nov 22nd, 06, 06:22 PM
I have and I had some good dialogue with Jeremy on another site I'm on. I now own Malitude which is a 64 Chevelle built by Mark Stielow. If you don't know, he's a GM suspension engineer and his cars work pretty well.

On this car he did Hotchkis stuff, but had a lot of swapping about to get the balance he wanted in the car. It rides and handles fine, but since I'm re-doing most everything in the car I was interested in how your system compared.

Other than ride height in-car adjustment (which I really don't need) Jeremy really didn't have any advantages for me to swap over.

Now if a guy hasn't modded his suspension, that's a different story.

So why did you buy a finished car again? lol

camcojb
Nov 22nd, 06, 06:29 PM
So why did you buy a finished car again? lol

No idea Jonny. :clonk: This was going to be a quick re-paint to fix some color issues, and then everything spiralled from there.:thumbsup:

Jody

BonzoHansen
Nov 22nd, 06, 06:45 PM
Just wanted to pass the on word about a really informative article in Hot Rod Magazine. It is on air suspension, how it works and the benefits. It is in the January 07 issue. Check it out let me know what you think.

Maybe so people don't get the idea you are just spamming, how about a disclaimer in your sig that you work for Ride Tech. Some of us know that, but some guys might not realize it and if they check your info, they might get huffy. Most guys around here in a position like yours will acknowledge it.

:thumbsup: Glad your products are getting great reviews. I love the fact you actually take your products out and kick the crapola out of them on tracks. Go G/28!

Jeremy536
Nov 22nd, 06, 08:25 PM
Maybe so people don't get the idea you are just spamming, how about a disclaimer in your sig that you work for Ride Tech. Some of us know that, but some guys might not realize it and if they check your info, they might get huffy. Most guys around here in a position like yours will acknowledge it.

Sorry still kind of new to the forums I will try to update as soon as I can. I have been here looking and learning for awhile. I have nothing to hide nor am I here to sell anything. I have a real passion for the first gen camaro and the more I can learn about them the happier I am. Normally I do not even have time to check out this site when I am at home! Only when I am at work!


:thumbsup: Glad your products are getting great reviews. I love the fact you actually take your products out and kick the crapola out of them on tracks. Go G/28!


Yes we love the testing part of the job. It is always allot of fun!!! I would also like to note that if there is any questions I can answer I would like to share my knowledge as limited as it may be! It would be the least I could do as much as I have learned from this forum.

jannes_z-28
Nov 23rd, 06, 10:57 AM
No idea Jonny. :clonk: This was going to be a quick re-paint to fix some color issues, and then everything spiralled from there.:thumbsup:

Jody

That's the definition for a "carnut" :D


Jan