My buddy has a z10 pace car coupe and was wondering what a nice one would be worth with the "right" options (4 speed, a/c, etc...). He says there were only around 180 made.

Thanks.

Matt

The Z10 was not ordered from Chev. as a Pace Car but over the years people have given it that monikar... it was a special production of coupes with more options than a true Pace Car (festival car) had. The Pace car decal was not part of the Z10 options either.
The Pace cars were limited to specific interiors and colors. Z10's had more options to change to the dealers desires. CRG has information now that possibly over 800 of the Z10 were built. Old articles and old books are still around that people consider fact when they are really outdated.
A good Z10 with good options in good condition is well into the $30,000 + range today.
The general public would look at a Z10 white color and organge stripe and think its a Pace car but they were not advertised as such. Still they are a small percentage of production of Camaros that year and hold a higher value than similar cars without the Z10 on the trim tag due to their limited production. There are others who will chime in but there were FAR more than 180 made.
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I cannot comment on the number of Z10's built but I can tell you there was one for sale in Sacramento for 60K. I do not see it advertised anymore so who knows?

I see prices ranging from about $45k to "call for price" (396 car). So is the Z10 the "redheaded stepchild" of rare camaros? It would seem to me whether the number was 180 or 800 that it's still pretty rare.

In actual numbers of cars built the Z10 would be the rarest in total numbers built. Id love to have a Z10 and Z11 side by side in the garage myself. If a Z10 had pop card, dealer invoice and all original drive train (total matching numbers) in #10 condition, I can see someone paying over $50k for it.

In actual numbers of cars built the Z10 would be the rarest in total numbers built. Id love to have a Z10 and Z11 side by side in the garage myself. If a Z10 had pop card, dealer invoice and all original drive train (total matching numbers) in #10 condition, I can see someone paying over $50k for it.

What about a date correct drivetrain, no POP, but in excellent condition?

Think Jim meant in number ONE condition,,not number TEN

Yep sorry, #1 :) but date correct drivetrain and not 'original matching numbers' would definately hurt the value. There's no way to 'look it up' and say 20% less or 50% less. A buyer would have to be the final determination but my 'guess' is between 15% and 30% less.
Look at it this way, if 2 identical Z10's in same condition,were side by side for sale, one all original and one only date correct, would you pay $10,000 more for the all original one? Maybe you would or wouldnt and someone else might or might not, depends on motivation of the buyer.
Like in real estate, there is no right or wrong in pricing, only the willingness of a seller and buyer to make a deal and at what price. :)

So is the Z10 the "redheaded stepchild" of rare camaros? It would seem to me whether the number was 180 or 800 that it's still pretty rare.

To render a perhaps controversial opine on your question, yes.

A Z10 is a Dover white Camaro SS hardtop with orange Z/28 stripes. So what? They were not part of the Indianapolis 500 marketing effort. No special engine, did not commemorate a special event. No one knows why they exist.

I totally 'get' Z/28s, COPOs, JL8s. Why a Z10 would be worth $1 more than any other Camaro SS coupe I can't explain.

To render a perhaps controversial opine on your question, yes.

A Z10 is a Dover white Camaro SS hardtop with orange Z/28 stripes. So what? They were not part of the Indianapolis 500 marketing effort. No special engine, did not commemorate a special event. No one knows why they exist.

I totally 'get' Z/28s, COPOs, JL8s. Why a Z10 would be worth $1 more than any other Camaro SS coupe I can't explain.

Then taking all that's been said here into consideration, what is a fair price for this car?

And as a side note, isn't the fact that the Z10 has it's own tag designation enough to warrant the rarity? It's a limited, recognized combination that GM felt was more than just a paint scheme otherwise why wouldn't it just be an X car?

Matt

There is no question that Z10s are rare. Again so what? Does not automatically make a Z10 more valuable than any other SS coupe. Many did not find the Z10/Z11 paint scheme attractive.

Picture identically equipped SS coupes side by side. #1 is a Z10; #2 is Black, white houndstooth, D90 stripe. Really think the Z10 is sharper and worth more?

There is no question that Z10s are rare. Again so what? Does not automatically make a Z10 more valuable than any other SS coupe. Many did not find the Z10/Z11 paint scheme attractive.

Picture identically equipped SS coupes side by side. #1 is a Z10; #2 is Black, white houndstooth, D90 stripe. Really think the Z10 is sharper and worth more?


Okay, then all things being equal - what's a fair price for a car like this?

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Is $45k too much or does an original 4 speed, ac, RS/SS command such a price regarless of it's Z10 status?

Does the Z10 cowl tag and history make it any more valuable than any other dover white camaro? If car #1 was a Z10 and car #2 was a white RS/SS X code car with orange stripes, which is worth more?

So, hypothetically, if I were to buy this car and have it painted black, would that damage the value or is it worth more as a dover white with orange stripes pace car coupe? I think that changing the color obviously effects resale but there's something, I think, to be said for the limited numbers and historical value of these cars.

Matt

To render a perhaps controversial opine on your question, yes.

A Z10 is a Dover white Camaro SS hardtop with orange Z/28 stripes. So what? They were not part of the Indianapolis 500 marketing effort. No special engine, did not commemorate a special event. No one knows why they exist.

I totally 'get' Z/28s, COPOs, JL8s. Why a Z10 would be worth $1 more than any other Camaro SS coupe I can't explain.

Like everything, supply and demand. I would think a lot of people would pay more than one dollar if their SS had originally came with z stripes.

Five months ago or so I sold my Z10 BB car with non original engine, M21 black deluxe Houndstooth.. ZL2 hood worked all the RS stuff worked. Nice car sold right away for full asking price of 40k with three back up purchasers

Like everything, supply and demand. I would think a lot of people would pay more than one dollar if their SS had originally came with z stripes.


I tend to agree. I'm looking to buy right now and there's something I like about the rarity of the Z10. I'll admit my first color combo of choice would be an orange car with black hockey stripes but the majority of those started as other colors and have no unique qualities. The Z10 is a uniquely coded car from GM with a limited supply and I think collectors take that into consideration when buying. Not that that's why I want a car - quite the opposite. I'm going to drive what ever car I buy regardless of the exclusivity of the cowl tag.