wagonman
Dec 22nd, 06, 07:58 PM
on these big event car shows how do they do the judging?
can anybody post a pic of a judge sheet?
do they try everything to see if it works?
DjD
Dec 22nd, 06, 09:08 PM
Need more details on what you mean by "big event car show". Goodguys, SuperChevy are what I would call big events but they don't do points judging. There are sanctioned, points judged shows but typically are not big events like the 2 shows mentioned.
I have been through the CCI/WCA judging and they give each entrant 1000 points. During classification they do a functional test of lights, wipers etc. This is your 1st chance to loose points. This is also where they decide what class your car belongs in. These guys are a feel good show and try not to put more than 3 cars in a class. Everyone places and wins a trophy if they succeed. OK, so you get through classification and the designated experts fill in the various classes. There can be as many as they need, start with year. Then trailered or driven. Then stock, contemporary, modified and custom. Then restored and survivor. How many class combos can you come up with? Everything from '69-stock-trailered-survivor to '69-custom-restored-driven. Don't forget they can double the classifications if needed with senior class (your car has been judged before) Anyway I digress...
From classification comes judging, and it's done by the entrants. You can't judge your own class but you will be assigned to a team of 3 and given several cars to judge. How you judge is based on the class you are judging. All the judging sheets are the same but if a car is driver as opposed to trailered you can't be as hard on wear and over all condition. Same with a survivor, you would go easy on it's paint compared to how you would judge the paint of a restored trailered car. Same things for all the fields on the tally sheets...
Next thing that comes to play in judging is the classification, a stock or contemporary car details like spare tire and jack can cost points in the trunk. A modified or custom they wouldn't matter. If you judge a stock car and it's a '69 convertible you would mark off for houndstooth unless it was a pace car. But if the car was a contemporary and the interior was one of the changes that kept it from being stock you can't mark it down for the houndstooth. It goes on and on... I used the houndstooth as an example because things get by the experts doing the classification. You have a little recourse as a judge but not too much. They also have people you can fall back on for guidance if your team reaches an impass.
Each judge gets a tally sheet broken down in categories. Each category is given xx points and if you find things wrong you take off x points from the category. Balance is the key here, you are in groups of 3 and work as a team. You may find something incorrect and the other two missed it, you talk it out... Also you may feel something is worth taking off 10 points another member may feel it's only worth taking off 6 and the 3rd judge says 5. That's ok but the final points deducted is averaged... In this case it would be 7 points off towards the final score.
Their judging is design so the judges don't have to be experts, the guys doing the classification are charged with that. I understand they have a gold class as well that you get invited to. Other organizations that do points judging have their own protocols...
CamarosRus
Dec 22nd, 06, 11:46 PM
Considered (by many) to be the BEST All Camaro show each year is the American Camaro Associations "Camaros at Carlisle" (PA) which is held in conjunction with the Carlisle All GM Nationals.
This link explains the misc classes....................
http://www.americancamaro.org/2007classes.php