Since I am converting my 67/327 to PS I am looking for PS Pump bracket/brackets... I have the small balancer and I did find a cradle bracket listed in D&R catalog for my application but is there also another bracket needed or is the cradle brkt the only one needed ?

TIA

if 67 is the same as 68, there are 2 pieces, the crandle bracket, and a second bracket which attaches to the engine under the motor mount, using the front 2 motor mount bolts. This second bracket has the adjuster slot and goes to the stud at the top of the pump

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The power steering brackets that came on 67-68 327’s will only work with the original style motor mounts. You can not use the readily available interlocking motor mounts with the 67-68 327 power steering brackets. If your car has had the motor mounts changed in the last 20 years they are probably the interlocking type. If you want to run the 327 type PS brackets you will have to replace the LH motor mount with an original type motor mount. It is also a real pain to tighten one of the nuts with these brackets. :(

A much better choice is the 1967-68 power steering brackets that came on Camaros with 302 and 350’s. Reproductions of these brackets are available for about $50. These brackets won’t interfere with the interlocking motor mounts and will also allow you to run an 8 inch harmonic balancer. It is also much easier to tighten the adjustment nut on the back of the pump with the 302/350 PS brackets. :thumbsup:

Steve, hate to disagree, especially when it sounds like you are speaking from experience, but...

I don't know where they came from, but my 327 car has interlocking motor mounts, and the 327 style power steering brackets. They fit just fine. I do use a washer under the rear top hole to even things out, since the bracket only goes under the front and lower.

I don't recall if I've ever tried to remove or replace this bracket with the motor installed tho. Maybe that's what you are refering to? It seems it'd be a beetch to get at the lower mount bolt with the motor in regardless.

I do use a washer under the rear top hole to even things out, since the bracket only goes under the front and lower.
Jim - From what you are saying it sounds like your power steering bracket is installed between the motor mount and the block. If this is the case your bracket is installed incorrectly. The PS bracket should be on top of the motor mount. Installing it incorrectly will cause the bracket to be tilted at a slight angle which would make belt adjustment difficult and could cause alignment issues with the pulleys.

I went through this with my 67 the last time I had the engine out. The local auto parts store sold me interlocking mounts and my PS bracket would not fit them. I purchased a non-interlocking mounts and assembled it per the AIM with no problems.

Steve, If I do purchase the brackets for the 302/350 can I still use my small balancer , and my 2-pc crank pulley or do they need to be changed also.

TIA

My 67 has the high perf PS bracket.
It is made to clear the large vibration damper. In addition, the tensioner bracket attaches to the motor mount forward upper bolt in a special way. The bolt has a stud built into it's head, the stud is tightened to hold the motor mount, then the PS bracket placed over the stud, and a nut added to hold the bracket.

If this bracket is put under a regular bolt, it will be pulled out of alignment.

About the low perf bracket, - I have seen ads with a 3 bolt hole flat plate tensioner that fits under the motor mount keeping it level. This is a special aftermarket tensioner not the original.

I believe the original low perf tensioner fits on top of the mount and just under two of the bolt heads as steve stated.

I would NEVER install a low perf non-interlocking mount, they break. I broke two with my 275hp 327 before it was off warranty!

David - Unfortunately when I installed my engine I was unaware of the high performance PS brackets, so I assembled it with a non-interlocking mount on the driver’s side. I remember thinking at the time that this is the side that lifts under acceleration when a stock mount lets go. I have new interlocking mounts and 302/350 brackets on the bench that will be installed sometime this year.

Jeff – The HP 302/350 brackets will work fine with your 327’s small balancer.

Jim - From what you are saying it sounds like your power steering bracket is installed between the motor mount and the block. If this is the case your bracket is installed incorrectly. The PS bracket should be on top of the motor mount. Installing it incorrectly will cause the bracket to be tilted at a slight angle which would make belt adjustment difficult and could cause alignment issues with the pulleys.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Odd... the brackets and motor mounts were on the car when I got it, installed in exactly the manner I described. I'm certainly no expert, other than on the particular peice of machinery in my garage, but the brackets fit perfect, nothing is out of line. Maybe 68 brackets were different from 67? Tho it seems strange when I think about it, GM wouldn't have designed it the way I have it installed, it would take too long to put that washer under the motor mount, and half the time it would fall on the floor and be left there, and the mount sits cockeyes without it.

Perhaps this was an "innovation" by the PO of my car?

It does fit fine. I guess the bracket is moved maybe a sixteenth of an inch closer to the block, that's not much at all. It really does all go together without binding up.

My 67 has the high perf PS bracket.
It is made to clear the large vibration damper. In addition, the tensioner bracket attaches to the motor mount forward upper bolt in a special way. The bolt has a stud built into it's head, the stud is tightened to hold the motor mount, then the PS bracket placed over the stud, and a nut added to hold the bracket.

If this bracket is put under a regular bolt, it will be pulled out of alignment.

About the low perf bracket, - I have seen ads with a 3 bolt hole flat plate tensioner that fits under the motor mount keeping it level. This is a special aftermarket tensioner not the original.

I believe the original low perf tensioner fits on top of the mount and just under two of the bolt heads as steve stated.

I would NEVER install a low perf non-interlocking mount, they break. I broke two with my 275hp 327 before it was off warranty!

Any pics? PN's?

Jim – I believe your PO modified your bracket to make it fit under your mount. I remember trying to place my 327 bracket under the mount and it did not fit.

David – My AIM calls for a bolt and not a stud for the L48/Z28 PS bracket to motor mount. In fact it is the same as the two bolts used in the 327 application.

Any pics? PN's?

I forgot my PS system was dealer installed. The kit they used probably used the Z/28/SS350 parts because they fit the large damper and are more universal.
An instruction sheet came with the kit but I don't have it. I assume the stud used was in the kit but the Assembly manual does not show it that way. My car came with manual steering, so the stud was not on the car before the install, - it must have come in the kit.

Either way, if the adjuster looks like it has a gap to the motor mount when offered up, it may be designed for the stud, if it fits without the stud, - even better.

I have a photo or two here: http://www.pozziracing.com/camaro_steering.htm#PS%20pumps%20and%20brackets
I'll try to add some new pics, but I don't have the low perf tensioner piece.