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utility5
Jan 23rd, 07, 01:53 PM
Anyone know if I can buy just the curved neck part for my radiator. I have a straight neck, and it should be curved for my 396 with A/C.

South Side Goons & Hitmen
Jan 23rd, 07, 04:40 PM
I do not believe you can buy that separately. What year is your Camaro? I replaced the 21" radiator in my 1969 with a 23" radiator. The car has a 350 small block in it. My car did not come with A/C. I used an upper radiator hose made for a 1968 with A/C. That worked fine in my 1969.

I had a 396 in my first Camaro. That car came with factory A/C but it was originally a small block. I forget what hose I used back then. I still believe that you should not have a problem trying to find a hose that should fit without having to replace your radiator. That is unless you are building a show car.

utility5
Jan 23rd, 07, 06:18 PM
Mine is a 69.. ya I have seen a picture of a 396 with A/C , without the cuved neck. Maybe it can be done without any trouble. I currently have a hose ON, but the front end is not finished and the rad support is not in the final location. I was thinking it would be nice to simply replace the neck with the proper curved one, if it is available - anyone know??

:beers:

Mat Klemp
Jan 23rd, 07, 08:07 PM
D & R has them in their catalog #t00292. check with them.

TTFN
Mat

MarkM
Jan 24th, 07, 07:48 AM
What cars came with the curved neck upper neck?

I'm putting together a '67 Camaro. It came without an engine/tranny, but I'm putting a bbc in it. The radiator it came with has a 90* upper neck, would this be correct for this car?

utility5
Jan 24th, 07, 09:16 AM
No, not technically correct. Curved necks were installed on all COPO and all 396 with factory A/C

Mat - Thanks for the tip with D&R!!

:beers:

Mark C
Jan 24th, 07, 10:17 AM
Only 69 Camaros (either a COPO or any big block with A/C) came with curved neck radiators. All other years had straight neck radiators.

KevinW
Jan 24th, 07, 03:05 PM
I have a junk big car radiator 66-67 vintage (I guess) and it has a curved neck on one of the tanks. If anyone is interested, I can take a pic tonight.

http://www.fototime.com/646CC0549AC7AEC/standard.jpg
http://www.fototime.com/2E452E1D0FB5119/standard.jpg

BlackoutSteve
Jan 25th, 07, 12:08 AM
Kevin, is it the same diameter as the top Camaro neck?

How much?

Utility5 has ordered the D&R one..

(Utility5, dude, I'm racking my brain.. I forgot your name darn it!! :p )

KevinW
Jan 25th, 07, 05:22 AM
Steve, I will go check for you.

KevinW
Jan 25th, 07, 08:24 PM
Steve, it is the same as the Small block upper for a camaro 1 5/8".

utility5
Jan 25th, 07, 08:41 PM
Steve - D&R had another in stock - brand new - cheap - what's amatter, running out of coins.

Rick - "Utility 5"

KevinW
Jan 25th, 07, 09:02 PM
Steve, I took a look at D&Rs pic. their's curves 90 degrees. The one on my rad curves around 70 degrees. If 90 degrees is correct, get the D&R one like Rick says :)

BlackoutSteve
Jan 25th, 07, 10:12 PM
Thanks Kevin and Rick! (I knew it started with an "R"..:p )

Yeah, I'll have to order one, but I'll need to accumulate some parts for a larger order. Just that on it's own will kill me!
No, not out of coins.. Plenty of those for once in my life..
It's time and space that I really need!.

MarkM
Jan 26th, 07, 09:02 AM
Mine has the 90* neck and it a 3 core unit.

Big Blocks came with a 3 core unit? Any idea if this will keep a pump gas 468 cool? With stock fan and shroud.

BlackoutSteve
Jan 26th, 07, 03:10 PM
3 core with a curved neck? I dare say it's not the original. I thought all BBC with A/C were 4 core.
Anyway, providing your cooling system is healthy, a 3 core should do OK.
A 7 blade clutch would be a big help too.

Pacecarjeff
Jan 26th, 07, 03:50 PM
I have a few Buick Radiators that have curved necks.
Maybe they can be re-done to Camaro use?
They are 4 core drop in style, with no brackets.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/111/111196/folders/255127/2021829IMG0084.jpg

BlackoutSteve
Jan 26th, 07, 07:25 PM
Looking at a lot of resto pics that I have collected, not all are 90 degree bends. I guess 1/2 of them would be about 70 degrees.
Maybe these restos have borrowed from Buicks or other cars because the D&R part hasn't always been available.

It's hard to tell if the one from D&R is exactly 90 degrees (I reckon it's pretty damn close), and one would hope that they offer the correct bend as per the original Harrisons.
http://www.drclassic.com/images/parts/21/20821.jpg

Does anyone know for sure if the orignial bend is 90 degrees?

BlackoutSteve
Jan 6th, 08, 09:47 PM
Remember this old thread?

I just got back from the radiator shop http://www.aussiedesertcooler.com.au/ , where Norm had a curved neck fitted for me. It's one he had laying about for some other non-Camaro application.
Anyway, it fits great and he saved me US$40 for the "correct" part, plus shipping, plus fitting, 'cos he did it for free.:thumbsup:

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6923/radiator001ze9.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=radiator001ze9.jpg) http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9712/radiator002dh0.th.jpg (http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=radiator002dh0.jpg)

Now, where's my paint!

BlackoutSteve
Jan 9th, 08, 10:06 PM
Um.. is it true that the necks were installed with an upward tilt of about 45°? -Unlike the post of mine you see above this..

I looked at several cars on the 'net and all I saw was what looked like necks that are horizontal..

ie: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5900/co57di3.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=co57di3.jpg)

Then I see this on Heartbeatcity's website.. http://store.heartbeatcity.net/store/product/13501/Radiator%2C-Original%2C-BB%2C-AT%2C-AC/ (http://store.heartbeatcity.net/store/product/13501/Radiator%2C-Original%2C-BB%2C-AT%2C-AC/)

..and this which appears to be tilting upward, but not as much..
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8822/f93yh1.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f93yh1.jpg)

So, I assume the tilt is correct (yes?) and does anyone know what angle above horizontal is correct?

BlackoutSteve
Jan 12th, 08, 10:11 PM
Anyone?

stope4
Jan 13th, 08, 09:11 PM
My understanding was that 67 and 68 bb cars with auto and ac did not have a curved neck. In fact, the radiator I have came from Heartbeat City. After getting through all of that guys verbal abuse, I concluded that the curved neck in 68 was only for 375 hp cars, period.

BlackoutSteve
Jan 14th, 08, 12:13 AM
Mine is a 69 and I know the curved neck was for BB A/C cars and (apparently most) COPO cars too.
Mine has a BB and A/C. :thumbsup:

BlackoutSteve
Jan 26th, 08, 02:48 AM
Yes, I'm quite sure the neck should be tilted upward by about 30° or so.
The hose doesn't fit so well with the neck at the horizontal position.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1686/engineinstall007oj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8563/engineinstall006lh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

mark x22
Jan 26th, 08, 07:20 AM
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/SSRS/th_topoutlet.jpg (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f58/markx22/SSRS/topoutlet.jpg)

BlackoutSteve
Jan 29th, 08, 03:19 AM
Fixed. :thumbsup:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7556/curvedneck001xo8.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=curvedneck001xo8.jpg)

The angle is about 35-40° from horizontal.
In this position the hose is "relaxed" when fitted, and the angle also matches pictures of the Harrison replacements.