guys,I have a set of engine lift brackets on ebay for sale and I,ve had a couple questions on them.I know some of the years had these brackets bare metal but did the 69 Z-28?thanks

Pretty sure 69 Z's were bare metal.

i thought they were chevy orange.....

They were the same color as the intake manifold.
Either orange or natural.

I thought I read another thread that not all engines had them. That they were sometimes removed and reused. Any truth to that? JM's Definitive '69 Z/28 book says Chevy Orange for lift hooks.

Ya I'd go with Jerry. 302 = orange, 396,427 = silver or orange.

I've seen a lot of discussion on here about the colors of those brackets. I think they could have been both, but it seems more people with original cars have the natural metal finish. When I get to that point I am going to just use a cast metal paint on them, as I think that looks better than the orange on an aluminum intake...IMO

I have a original 70 Z28- LT1 engine with 6,000 miles, it has been discussed heavily on Yenko.net. It still has all the ink marks as well as the chalk marks on the side of the block. Anyway the lift brackets are natural colour, not painted orange. The rear bracket does have some minor orange overspray though.
Also in Looking at original 69 Z28 road test pictures in Hot Rod magazine etc, the brackets also appear natural.
Hope this helps.

....paging JerryM and JohnZ..... :D

They were the same color as the intake manifold.
Either orange or natural.

If you intake was aluminum, they were not painted.
If your intake was painted orange - so was the bracket.

Thanks guys.That would make sense,painted vs non.How about the stamping on them,generic or item specific?

Were those installed on our 67 Camaro's?

In 67, they were only used on the Big Blocks.
Not sure why???

I asked JM over at CRG about this. He said that the BB had painted or orange depending on the intake. '68 & '69 302 had painted. '67 did not have them.:beers:

I read that they are a recall item on the 67. there was one for sale on ebay and had part numbers and said on the box " for chevy nova-1968-1969: 307-327-350 and camaro- 1967 through 1969: 302-307-327 (Except 1969 nova and camaro: 302-307-327 or 350 with air conditioning ). " and the part # for it is
#330265.
Bob

That part number shows to be a "engine limiting cable stop"

That part number shows to be a "engine limiting cable stop"

That's this device, not a lifting bracket:

That part number shows to be a "engine limiting cable stop"

Sorry thats what I thought you ment. Do you have a pic of the part you are talking about so I will know in the Future.
Thanks Bob

Can't think of any reason for orange paint to be anywhere near there?

Hi Jeff. Not trying to argue, just pass the facts as I learned them from JM. I asked the question, but no response to it. If the lift brackets were sometimes removed and reused. That could explain paint or not on different engines and plants. Seems like GM would not want to possibly put rusty parts (bottom of the barrel) on a new car.

Actually here is a picture of a 5k mile survivor.
They must have been painted before installation-by the vendor.
Can't think of any other reason for paint.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85850
Here is a link to a picture I posted previously. The driver side bracket is rusty.:confused:

P.S. Mine are painted.:D

That one looks natural.
Really - unless they were painted by the vendor.
They would not have been orange.
There would be overspray all over the place. ???

So I don't know???

Did they paint the motors before they put the intake on?It would seem like if they were on before they painted the engine they would get painted and some of the talk on here you guys said that the aluminum intakes had some overspray down the edges,would this get overspray on the brackets?No numbers stamped on them?I have seen a few sets with K,S,M and NC stamped on them?

Did they paint the motors before they put the intake on?It would seem like if they were on before they painted the engine they would get painted and some of the talk on here you guys said that the aluminum intakes had some overspray down the edges,would this get overspray on the brackets?No numbers stamped on them?I have seen a few sets with K,S,M and NC stamped on them?

The intake was in place when the engine was painted; engines with aluminum intakes got a vacuum-formed plastic mask placed on the intake before they were sprayed, plus one over each aluminum valve cover. :thumbsup:

John,
Then why did those lift hooks get painted on the aluminum manifold Z/28's?
Or did they?
Unless they stuck out from under the formed cover, but there was no reason to paint anything up there ???.