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rsmithline Jan 30th, 07, 07:51 AM I am eager to join the community here and mercilessly suck whatever information I can about restoring my camaro from you guys. :)
I have just purchased a 67 Camaro Convertible that is in need of a full restoration, but will act as a daily driver as I plan the bank account wrecking resto.
Robert
1969 Camaro Dude Jan 30th, 07, 08:44 AM Welcome
zuma Jan 30th, 07, 08:57 AM WQelcome to the team! Pictures! Take plenty of pictures and post some here...thanks :D
DougP Jan 30th, 07, 09:52 AM Welcome to Team Camaro and your in the right place for getting information on first gen Camaros
chevy67 Jan 30th, 07, 11:27 AM where in Nj are you? you'll be able to find 99.9% of you8r info here, even if its wrong you'll still get an answer.
Dayton68Z28 Jan 30th, 07, 12:47 PM Welcome.
I honestly don't think there is a question you can ask that will stump the Team Camaro board.
I have asked many, many questions. Always good advice.
Just post your question in the correct category.
redfox Jan 30th, 07, 01:21 PM Hello and welcome to this site.:beers:
rsmithline Jan 30th, 07, 01:34 PM Thanks guys!
Pictures (Yes, I bought it on eBay): http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170070498135&rd=1,1
No, I did not pay $6,100 for it. :) I paid the $12,500 buy it now price. And Yes I overpaid. Now that I have the car there is almost nothing I really want to salvage on it except the VIN. I am now considering a Dynacorn project.
I am not really disappointed though...this is my dream car (or rather will be). It needs a full resto but is running and with just a couple grand invested in a month it can be my daily driver. At least for a year or two while I get ready for the wallet crunching resto.
I only wanted a '67 convertible. Convertible for obvious reasons, and I like the vent windows and the center console on the '67. I know it is the most popular one but, I hate the interior of the '69 but would have settled for a '68 if I had to.
Chevy67: I am in Long Valley, NJ.
Robert
zuma Jan 30th, 07, 02:08 PM What are the issues with the body? You only want to save the vin, nothing else is salvageable? Once you start pricing replacement parts and find out how inferior some repro parts are....you'll change your mind I'm sure....I think looking at the pictures you posted from the ebay ad, there are plenty of reuseable items on that 67....good luck with your resto, you have a nice start with that vert...:)
Camaro Dave Jan 30th, 07, 03:03 PM Robert, welcome to the Team. Your car looks like a nice resto project. The $12,500 doesn't seem too high of a price tag from the pictures. The car will easily bring in triple the money you paid when finished.
rsmithline Jan 30th, 07, 03:25 PM What are the issues with the body? You only want to save the vin, nothing else is salvageable? Once you start pricing replacement parts and find out how inferior some repro parts are....you'll change your mind I'm sure....I think looking at the pictures you posted from the ebay ad, there are plenty of reuseable items on that 67....good luck with your resto, you have a nice start with that vert...:)
The main issue is rust. Lotsa rust. When I think about what a new dynacorn body and Martz subframe cost I can't imaging I am spending much more than restoring this body would cost.
It is the little items that kill you though. I am putting a spreadsheet together of all of the items I think I would need from the massive Classic Industries catalog and I am up to $32K so far. And that's without the drivetrain, engine or paint.
But when I look at each item I am replacing I can't imagine settling for the original on my nice new body. I am sure that reality will set in about halfway through though. :)
Out of curiosity...if I use the VIN on this car for my new Dynacorn one what would this car be worth as a parts car. Heck if someone could deal with a non-GM replacement VIN from the DMV it would still be restorable.
Any idea on the value? I am really leaning toward the fresh build option.
Thanks for the advice guys!
Robert
chevy67 Jan 30th, 07, 03:41 PM Long valley is only about 3 inches away from me on the map. Welcome to the best site on the net.
camaromaniac Jan 30th, 07, 04:10 PM The eBay seller said the car was "virtually rust free". Guess he had a different interpetation of what is and what is not, RUST! Guys, for the millionth time, please have any car checked out before bidding/buying them. If you can't do it yourself, you can hire a local vehicle inspection company. You will always be $ ahead and have the ability to walk away from a RUST bucket. Charlie
purpleZ Jan 30th, 07, 05:03 PM welcome:D
rsmithline Jan 31st, 07, 06:57 AM The eBay seller said the car was "virtually rust free". Guess he had a different interpetation of what is and what is not, RUST! Guys, for the millionth time, please have any car checked out before bidding/buying them. If you can't do it yourself, you can hire a local vehicle inspection company. You will always be $ ahead and have the ability to walk away from a RUST bucket. Charlie
Truely good advice Charlie.
I am still not disappointed though. Even knowing about the rust now it is worth the $12,500 to me. I have been following the auctions on eBay for a while and total wrecks sell for $6-8 thousand. To have a car I can drive while I restore it is easily worth the extra 4 grand (at least to me).
While the issue is rust it may not be as bad as I made it sound...it is a 40 year old steel car after all. It is just too rusty for me to want to strip and restore. I took it to my shop to take a look and they don't thing even the subframe is worth saving.
Once again, I am just thrilled to finally have this car in any condition. :)
Robert
Old baldguy Jan 31st, 07, 02:14 PM Welcome Robert from the NW have fun and Happy Motoring
chevy67 Jan 31st, 07, 11:02 PM well your not to far from me and there is a gentleman in danielsville pa named shelly, uhhuh. he has been restoring 1st generations for a very long time. maybee you should get a second opinion from him before you jump. Give me a call or email . 484-903-1989, Joe
Lost in the 60's Feb 3rd, 07, 02:10 PM The main issue is rust. Lotsa rust. When I think about what a new dynacorn body and Martz subframe cost I can't imaging I am spending much more than restoring this body would cost.
It is the little items that kill you though. I am putting a spreadsheet together of all of the items I think I would need from the massive Classic Industries catalog and I am up to $32K so far. And that's without the drivetrain, engine or paint.
But when I look at each item I am replacing I can't imagine settling for the original on my nice new body. I am sure that reality will set in about halfway through though. :)
Out of curiosity...if I use the VIN on this car for my new Dynacorn one what would this car be worth as a parts car. Heck if someone could deal with a non-GM replacement VIN from the DMV it would still be restorable.
Any idea on the value? I am really leaning toward the fresh build option.
Thanks for the advice guys!
Robert
If you need that many little items now, you'll still need them for the new body....
If you remove the VIN and trim tags for a new body, the transfer needs to be well documented and travel with the new body forever. The original body needs to BE DESTROYED....there are partial VIN numbers stamped into the original body that would still show you as the owner if someone attempted to re-VIN and re-title it. You could sell body PARTS, but not the areas where the stampings are. They need to be cut out and travel with the new body as proof that it is not a fraud...we've got more of those now than we need.
If you want a "new" body and everything else to go with it, why not just start there ?? You can have it VIN taged and titled as a new car. You don't need an original for it. The car you have looks far better than what many others have started with and restored very nicely.
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