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Old Oct 28th, 09, 02:30 PM
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How much trouble to install in 1967 non ac convertable with headers i would also like to move my alternator to the drivers side . Car has a 350 engine around 275HP Trans 3 speed auto with headers does not run hot should i go with a larger radiator.
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Old Oct 28th, 09, 06:39 PM
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How much trouble to install in 1967 non ac convertable with headers i would also like to move my alternator to the drivers side . Car has a 350 engine around 275HP Trans 3 speed auto with headers does not run hot should i go with a larger radiator.
Thanks in advance


Not a hard installation at all. The VA kits come with different brackets depending on which side you want to mount the compressor. Also, different length hoses. The Gen IV is the most advanced kit offered. Its all electronic like a modern car- no cables, and takes up alot less space under the hood. Its a nice way to go.


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Old Oct 29th, 09, 01:30 PM
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Yep, the install isn't too bad, I say that now after it is done ha ha! Anyways, i went ahead and left the compressor on the driver's side, w/ alternator on the pass. side and ended up using the full length of the extra long hoses they provide that just have to have a final crimp to length connector on it. I was actually shorted one hard line, and didn't want to wait to get it, so I improvised. I do think that having the compressor on the pass. side makes it look cleaner, and will change my setup when I get the $ set asside to swap in some efi, but for now it is fine.

I would say that if I had to do the install over again, it would probably go 2x faster just due to the learning curve, but don't plan on doing it again anytime soon. I really like my gen IV vintage air system, and it made things soooo much nicer out here in Arizona! At any rate, I think one thing that makes life way easier with the install, is to take the right front fender off to get the old heater box inlet off and out. it just won't come out... in one piece that is! Anyways, I didn't have any help to take the fender off/hood etc, so it set me back hours trying to work around that I would say. Just do yourself a favor and take those pieces off!

I kept missplacing items, and 0-rings, so that def. makes for a longer install. That and working in a garage that is 115 degrees don't help either!

It is a great product, and will use it again for future rides.
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Old Oct 29th, 09, 02:22 PM
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Yep, the install isn't too bad, I say that now after it is done ha ha! Anyways, i went ahead and left the compressor on the driver's side, w/ alternator on the pass. side and ended up using the full length of the extra long hoses they provide that just have to have a final crimp to length connector on it. I was actually shorted one hard line, and didn't want to wait to get it, so I improvised. I do think that having the compressor on the pass. side makes it look cleaner, and will change my setup when I get the $ set asside to swap in some efi, but for now it is fine.

I would say that if I had to do the install over again, it would probably go 2x faster just due to the learning curve, but don't plan on doing it again anytime soon. I really like my gen IV vintage air system, and it made things soooo much nicer out here in Arizona! At any rate, I think one thing that makes life way easier with the install, is to take the right front fender off to get the old heater box inlet off and out. it just won't come out... in one piece that is! Anyways, I didn't have any help to take the fender off/hood etc, so it set me back hours trying to work around that I would say. Just do yourself a favor and take those pieces off!

I kept missplacing items, and 0-rings, so that def. makes for a longer install. That and working in a garage that is 115 degrees don't help either!

It is a great product, and will use it again for future rides.
X2 (especially removing the RF fender)
It is a very well designed kit. Read the instructions a couple of times before starting and it should got well. I have been very impressed with mine.
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Old Oct 30th, 09, 07:45 AM
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I installed VA Gen IV with Aeroquip stainless lines and the polished compressor in the wife's 69 last year. I ordered the kit for right side installation and moved the alternator to the left. Ordered Zoops billet brackets and pulleys. Easy install but time consuming. Used it on the Powere Tour in June and the rest of the summer. Nice cold air and we used the heater last weekend. No problems there either.

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Old Oct 30th, 09, 02:32 PM
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Does Vintage still use the cheap looking plastic cover on the firewall? The one the hoses protrude through?
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The Gen IV system uses a metal plate for the firewall (painted black). It doesn't look too bad and is much better than the plastic one.
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Old Oct 30th, 09, 08:21 PM
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I had a 20 year old kid (apprentice) working with us that I did a 20 hour challenge on a Gen IV. I asked him to read the instructions 3 times cover to cover so when he was doing the install and reading for the 3rd time, he would remember having read this and also remember things coming up. The kid beat the clock by a couple hours and it was perfect!

Nice kid, but if he can do it, anyone can.

Yes, you can get compressor brackets for driver side short alternator (67 / 68 style) and passenger side long water pump style (69 style), also compressor brackets for headers or Exhaust manifolds.
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Old Nov 2nd, 09, 02:11 AM
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Thanks for all of the information and tips.
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Old Nov 11th, 09, 02:08 AM
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I'm in the process of installing my Gen IV.
Is the only reason to remove the fender to make removing the heater box easier?
Most of my heater box is already off (aka. broken) and the only portion still attached to the car is the section under the fender. Haven't taken a real close look at it but would I be able to take this section off fairly easy? Looks like just a round part with a rotating thing inside. I'm assuming it's just held on there by a few screws.
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