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Old Nov 13th, 12, 06:10 AM
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Pro Touring??? What does that really mean?

To me #1 would be suspension upgrades. OD Tranny is a must. Followed by added creature comforts, AC, Sound System and then engine and transmission upgrades.

We haven't seen the exterior of this car which look like a 2nd Gen.

Not out of a Vette, more likely an Fbody. LS Engines can easily run well over 100k miles and with the auto tranny good chance it hasn't been beat on.

The exhaust system appears the H-pipe is not welded all the way so probably non-functional and the hangers are weak but again no biggy. I'd just toss in an X-pipe. Looks like SpinTech mufflers which are nice. Somes Long Tubes would be nice in lieu of the factory manifolds.

The frame and underside looks solid. Has sub connectors. No apparent rust.

I don't care for the external fuel pump. I'm sure it's very loud. The C5 filter regulator/filter works great. I would plan on a new fuel tank with an in Tank pump.

The engine install isn't that bad and would not take that much to clean up. Rework the wiring runs and do a little better with the hoses a few other items and you're good. The inside looks like a good start. Car appears to have Factory AC. So for the right price you could pick it up do some suspension and brake mods and have a decent and reliable "Pro Tour"
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Old Nov 13th, 12, 06:27 PM
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Thanks Vegas.
Here's the car in question.

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Looks clean, but as said above, it doesn't look like it's had much more than an engine swap. If I was going to look for a "pro-touring" car, I'd be more concerned about the suspension and brake upgrades than an LS swap- the car you're looking at may run smooth and get good gas mileage, but it's likely to ride, handle, and brake like crap (like they did 40 years ago).
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True... I would consider that car a "resto-mod"...today's performance with yesterday's style... If the price is in the mid-to-low thirties, it's probably a good starting point. You will have a car that drives great, is cool to cruise in, but not quite a "track day" car...

As stated above, upgrade the suspension (tubular UCA/LCA); brakes; and fix the exhaust, and you have one helluva daily driver that can run on the highway all day long, is reliable, and will throw down 20+MPG...
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I wouldn't pay 30's for it, by any stretch. But the LS swap is a big cost savings. You could probably do the full front and rear suspension and disc brakes for less than the cost of swapping in an LS.
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I wouldn't pay 30's for it, by any stretch. But the LS swap is a big cost savings. You could probably do the full front and rear suspension and disc brakes for less than the cost of swapping in an LS.
Pluses.

Split Bumper
Good Body and Paint
Very Clean under
LS Swap
A/C
Nice Wheels and Tires
Nice Interior and Dash

Minuses

Brakes and Suspension
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Thanks guys, really. I appreciate all the feedback.
I'll let you know if i decide to go look at it.
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That's a nice looking car with some nice modifications. I see Hotchkis rear leafs and will just assume matching front coils, a 700R4 or 4L60E overdrive automatic, and an 8.5 10 bolt which is known to be stout enough for regular drag strip abuse. There is no definition for pro-touring beyond a vague concept, and it seems the more dough you pile into one the pro-er it gets.
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You can tell those are Hotchkis rear springs? How? Not doubting, just curious how you could tell. Anything else "notable" from the picks I should factor in to considering this car? I was unsure about the suspension credentials, but if it actually has Hotchkis springs that's a plus.
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Not positive of course, but fairly sure. 3 leafs, look just like mine right down to the sticker residue at the front of each spring (that said "Front")
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You can tell those are Hotchkis rear springs? How? Not doubting, just curious how you could tell. Anything else "notable" from the picks I should factor in to considering this car? I was unsure about the suspension credentials, but if it actually has Hotchkis springs that's a plus.
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Not positive of course, but fairly sure. 3 leafs, look just like mine right down to the sticker residue at the front of each spring (that said "Front")
I'm not sold on them being Hotchkis. I've never seen them numbered (looks like a #9 behind the perch), and the leafs come with heavy duty U-bolts. Not that they had to use them, but why wouldn't you, if they were included with the kit?

It's nitpicking, I know. But when I first the 3 leafs on this car, I looked at mine to see if they matched up, and those were two obvious difference that came to mind.
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My Hotchkis springs have "24" written on each by hand in white paint pen. FWIW I doubt Hotchkis makes their own springs.

I see 4 red shock absorbers on that car - Koni Classics?
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My Hotchkis springs have "24" written on each by hand in white paint pen. FWIW I doubt Hotchkis makes their own springs.

I see 4 red shock absorbers on that car - Koni Classics?
That's good to know. Mine are blank, and so are the other pics I have seen. Anyways, that wipes out my theory about the numbers on them.

Why not use the 5/8" U-bolts they supply?
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