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Old Dec 31st, 12, 05:55 PM
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I know it probobly doesn't matter at this point, but I really want to know. There are two holes near the fuse block one to the left of the block maybe, 3/8 and then there is a hole looks about 1/2 about 2 or 3 inches below the fuse block. Could that be a tach cable hole?
Even if it is a tach cable hole, it won't prove as a Z28. Other cars had tachometers too.

Have you read any of the stuff I posted?

I understand your wanting to know if it is a Z28 or not, but the answers haven't changed since the car was first discussed in 2002. It has a lot of the correct items, but without the original engine you will never know for sure.
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Thought provoking question.

"With RPO Z28" is noted in the AIM with different part numbers. I believe the steering parts were shot-peened and had pink paint daubs.
Interesting - does that explain these markings on the center link?

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Could be. Looks pink to me.
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I thought all SS cars (350 or 396) had Q-Jet carbs which would have a duel fuel line--My LM1 car also had the duel fuel line. I would guess that the single 3/8 line would suggest a Z.

The 396-375hp cars had Holley carbs, no Q-jets for them.
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Bryon, I've read everything, everyone has posted 100 times. I've read Jerry's book cover to cover, I've talked to numerous people about this car and zs in general. I am in no way an expert, but it's just really frustrating for me. The DMV won't release any info about previous owners so I can't get any phone numbers, I've had Chps do vin and title searches with no usable results. I'm even chasing a lead on the supposed original motor, but have not gotten any definite answers, I'm not trying to bother people by continuing to ask these questions, I just keep hopping that by grabbing for more knowledge I will learn some rid bit that wasn't given the first ten times around. Hitting brick walls is very aggravating, and I'm sure hundreds of other guys have the same problems, but there has to be an answer out there. Someone knows something. At this point I don't even care so much about finding the motor or trying to make it worth more, I am just obsessed with finding out the history of this car. This is first and probobly only car I will ever own that even has a chance of being something special, and I just really want to know one way or another. Anyway, I'm sorry, I hope I'm not bothering or offending anyone by bringing this car up time and time again, I just keep thinking one day I will check these threads and there will be a magic answer there for me.
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Tom, I realize it is frustrating, but really there is not much you can do. There are no magic answers. Lots of people are in the same boat. If I was in your shoes, I would just try to restore the car as if it were a Z28. Put in a period correct engine (whatever size you want) and call it good for now. Use as many correct/original parts as possible.

Someday the original engine may turn up, but it's a real long shot. Those cars were beat and beat hard by some people, so engine and transmission failures were pretty common.

Title searches might turn up some leads, which could result in some dealer paper work or the Protect-o-Plate (POP). But again, chances of that are pretty low.

Not trying to be a downer, just a realist.

How does the axle assembly date compare to the vehicle assembly date? How about the date code on the hood?

Nothing other than original paperwork, original POP or the original block will prove it 100 percent. Things like suspension parts, rear axles and other Z28 specific items are "bolt ons" so they could have been transferred from another car. I am not saying they were, but "just saying" because that is a possibility.
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I know it probobly doesn't matter at this point, but I really want to know. There are two holes near the fuse block one to the left of the block maybe, 3/8 and then there is a hole looks about 1/2 about 2 or 3 inches below the fuse block. Could that be a tach cable hole?
Maybe post a pic.
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I would love to post some pics but I don't know how. Can anyone walk me through that? I do understand its all a long shot, but I do enjoy a challenge, it's just more fun when at least one lead goes anywhere. :-)
The cowl build date is o4c
The rear end casting date is C289 which is march 29
And other number is BU 0407G2
E
Which should mean 3:73 posi April 7 Detroit shift 2
So the rear end appears to be correct. But I'm sure some ss cars came with the same rear end. The front fenders are stamped for z emblems and the date on the pass fender is D 12 not sure what that means though. I guess if its not a z the only other thing it could really be is an ss350 which is still cool.
Can't find the dates on the pass fender or hood. There was some rust pitting and they were already media blasted.
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Tom, instructions for posting photos is in my signature.
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"I guess if its not a z the only other thing it could really be is an ss350 which is still cool."

If the single 3/8" fuel line is original to the car, it's not an ss350
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I would love to post some pics but I don't know how. Can anyone walk me through that? I do understand its all a long shot, but I do enjoy a challenge, it's just more fun when at least one lead goes anywhere. :-)
The cowl build date is o4c
The rear end casting date is C289 which is march 29
And other number is BU 0407G2
E
Which should mean 3:73 posi April 7 Detroit shift 2
So the rear end appears to be correct. But I'm sure some ss cars came with the same rear end. The front fenders are stamped for z emblems and the date on the pass fender is D 12 not sure what that means though. I guess if its not a z the only other thing it could really be is an ss350 which is still cool.
Can't find the dates on the pass fender or hood. There was some rust pitting and they were already media blasted.
If the single 3/8" fuel line is original to the car, then it's not an ss350.
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Old Jan 2nd, 13, 02:51 PM
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Has the fuel line issue been 100% confirmed? I thought I heard some were different? So ONLY zs and bigblock cars had 3/8 fuel lines? Is that for sure correct?

Also, is it uncouth to start a thread that is a deliberate engine search? I've checked the orphans archive with no luck. If I made a thread with the partial vin maybe someone will recognize it. Is that rude, or frowned upon?
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Also, is it uncouth to start a thread that is a deliberate engine search? I've checked the orphans archive with no luck. If I made a thread with the partial vin maybe someone will recognize it. Is that rude, or frowned upon?
You are not supposed to post something on CRG looking for an engine.

Here are the posting instructions for the CRG orphans page...
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=1868.0
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The cowl build date is 04C
The rear end casting date is C289 which is march 29
And other number is BU 0407G2
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Which should mean 3:73 posi April 7 Detroit shift 2
So the rear end appears to be correct.
VIN 124379L529364

OK, just wanted to put all of the numbers together.

Some other threads on this car. It does appear to be a Z28 but again, with engine gone...well you know.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...=124379L529364
and another Post:
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...=124379L529364
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Thank you Bryon!
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