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Old Jan 16th, 13, 03:40 PM
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It could - but I would imagine the manufacturer just followed an OEM tube measurements to make this, so the length should be pretty close to stock.
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It's actually a 3-step
(count stamp transitions from the front seal)

I'd still do the oil change, add 4-quarts and then check the dip-stick mark (prior to starting the engine.
If it's anywhere near the 'Full' mark then it's the right stick and is a 4-quart pan - if not then you got some figurin' to do ... can you get it to 'full' by adding another quart, or , is the stick to short ...
You could also just order a 'repopped' dip-stick (NPD #C-1516-4 @$20) for your engine and see what kind of reading you get doing the above check - that should help you rule out the stick ...
That makes sense. Thanks John. Would the length of the dipstick housing make a difference? It's probably an aftermarket one considering it's chrome.

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It should be 4 quarts + 1 for Filter change = 5 Total - as long as it's the common 'stock' passenger oil pan ...

As far as oil - would need to know more about engine, cam, driving conditions and other info before we could accurately answer.
But as a general rule - if the engine is built to 'stock' spec.s and has a 'flat' tappet cam, then a 10w40 oil with a can of EOS (or a higher ZDDP spec.) would be the normal recommendation ...
Well, I didn't get much of a turnover at all on the car or engine as the guy was pretty much hands off. All he really could tell me about the engine was he thought it had over 400hp. Then again, he told me it had a 10 bolt. I looked under it and it has a 12 bolt. Normal driving conditions, no idea on stock specs or not. If the engine had roller rockers I think the valve covers would be the tall ones right? It has the shorter ones. And it idles real good. Even in this cold weather here in Indy. Really not sure how I could determine flat tappet cam or not. (novice here). "Can of EOS"?
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Aftermarket sticks and tubes can be of different lengths from OE items.
As others suggested, pour in the oil and measure on the stick.
If higher than new stick markings, calibrate the stick.
GM's EOS = Engine Oil Supplement, Expensive over any GM parts counter, $24 per bottle at the local GM dealer I chose at the time, but well worth the money.
Most other members use Joe Gibbs or Brad Penn oil has they have more robust zinc recipe.
You won't really know whether the engine has roller lifters or flat tappet lifters until the intake is pulled, but it doesn't hurt to add more zinc.
And yes, short rocker covers would mean no roller rocker arms as they need the height.
Also, the length of oil filter will detrmine whether it is a qt capacity, tall filter as in a Fram PH8, or short filter, one pint capacity, half the length of a long one, model number eludes me for the moment.
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Aftermarket sticks and tubes can be of different lengths from OE items.
As others suggested, pour in the oil and measure on the stick.
If higher than new stick markings, calibrate the stick.
GM's EOS = Engine Oil Supplement, Expensive over any GM parts counter, $24 per bottle at the local GM dealer I chose at the time, but well worth the money.
Most other members use Joe Gibbs or Brad Penn oil has they have more robust zinc recipe.
You won't really know whether the engine has roller lifters or flat tappet lifters until the intake is pulled, but it doesn't hurt to add more zinc.
And yes, short rocker covers would mean no roller rocker arms as they need the height.
Also, the length of oil filter will detrmine whether it is a qt capacity, tall filter as in a Fram PH8, or short filter, one pint capacity, half the length of a long one, model number eludes me for the moment.
I have a Fram PH5 on it currently. And yes it is a smaller filter. You think the majority here uses PH8 on their BBC? I would assume more oil capacity the better.
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Thanks for the engine picture Brad. I didn't realize that a small block fan shroud would fit a BB.
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I have a Fram PH5 on it currently. And yes it is a smaller filter. You think the majority here uses PH8 ...
Do yourself a BIG favor and switch to Wix/NAPA 'Gold' type filters

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The 1060/61 is the Long and the 1069 is the Short.

They are MUCH better quality and will give you much better protection
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Do yourself a BIG favor and switch to Wix/NAPA 'Gold' type filters

Attachment 31850
The 1060/61 is the Long and the 1069 is the Short.

They are MUCH better quality and will give you much better protection
X2, trust us.
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Friends don't let friends use Fram filters.
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Do yourself a BIG favor and switch to Wix/NAPA 'Gold' type filters

Attachment 31850
The 1060/61 is the Long and the 1069 is the Short.

They are MUCH better quality and will give you much better protection
That's what I'm talking about!

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