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Old May 15th, 07, 04:40 AM
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I installed a new motor same starter and wires. It won't engage the starter now. I connedted the large purple wire to the terminal closest to the block and the large batt cable. I ran switched power to the coil from the fuse panel. The is a ready to run electronic dist. I disconnected the other wire on the starter I believe it's not needed.

If I turn the ignition on and use a remote starter connecting the starter to batt and the purple the car starts then I could shut it off with the key. I can also start it using the batt and the other terminal on the starter and turn it off with the key. I don't think I'm getting power to the large purple wire. Could it be the key?
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Use a test light, horn, or DMM on the purple wire to see/hear if power is at "S" terminal, purple wire in the START position.

If no power, no neutral safety switch, then yes could be ignition switch failed.
If you do have a neutral safety switch, then n/s could be out of adjustment due to trans movement during the engine swapout.

You are correct in stating you do not need the yellow wire on the "R" terminal of the solenoid, since you have an electronic distributor. Just be sure you have ign voltage at dist when key is in the Start position.
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Use a test light, horn, or DMM on the purple wire to see/hear if power is at "S" terminal, purple wire in the START position.

If no power, no neutral safety switch, then yes could be ignition switch failed.
If you do have a neutral safety switch, then n/s could be out of adjustment due to trans movement during the engine swapout.

You are correct in stating you do not need the yellow wire on the "R" terminal of the solenoid, since you have an electronic distributor. Just be sure you have ign voltage at dist when key is in the Start position.

I could just jump out the N/S to see if thats the problem right? Just pull the shifter cover and jump ot the switch.
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Yep, its either open/burnt/out of adjustment, if this is the problem.
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Yep, its either open/burnt/out of adjustment, if this is the problem.
Do you have a wire diagram for the starter setup?
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No, I don't have a diagram, but,
Purple/White is power from ignition switch in STRT to neutral switch.
Across n/s to purple wire to "S" terminal on solenoid, if OE starter or OE style. Otherwise, purple wire to small post on solenoid of aftermarket starter.

Positive battery cable to large post on starter solenoid.

If OE or OE style starter, and points ignition, yellow wire from "R" terminal of OE solenoid to + post of ignition coil, provides start voltage for ignition during the start procedure. I don't think ignition switch carries ign voltage during start cycle.

I place continuity tester, the "diode"/beeper step of the DMM across the n/s and shift to neutral and adjust n/s for a beep to occur, tighten screws. Check continuity does not exist in any other gear except Park and any looseness of the gear selelcted.
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Found it! I checked before the N/S switch and had power. Connected it and checked the output of it and had power. Switch good. Checked at starter and had none. I cut the wire 2 feet comming out of the block on the inside of the engine bay. Got power. junction Block good. Still no starter power. It ended up being a bad splice (that i didn't do) 2 feet from the starter. I'm going to replace the entire wire from the 2 feet from the firewall and be done with it.

Thanks. Now I wish my engine problem could be this easy!
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Cool !!! A solder splice with shrink tubing would be a good splice.
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