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Old Sep 14th, 07, 07:40 PM
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Default Complete floor pan - expected costs?

Picked up a 67 convertible, floor pans look like several people welded in flat sheet and pounded it into shape. Maybe 10 patches over a period of years. Rather than leave it and only replace the newest weak spot, I prefer to replace the whole pan. What can I expect if I have it done by a pro? I have done small jobs myself, but this is probably beyond my skill set.

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Old Sep 14th, 07, 09:11 PM
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It depends on who you ask, but the GoodMark installation center gets $500 per side for the full length floor pans. My guess is that since the full one-piece pan is a whole lot more work, price would be in the $1200-$1500 range. This is just a guess. IMHO,install it in yourself. Do not be intimidated. The project is not as tough as some make it out to be.
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Old Sep 15th, 07, 06:46 AM
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Whole lot more work? I would think that it would be much easier and there is no full seams to be welded such just a bunch of spot welds? I installed my floor and firewall in one day. Had it all out in one day too.

By the way that was the first body work I have ever done.
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Old Sep 15th, 07, 08:36 AM
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Whole lot more work? I would think that it would be much easier and there is no full seams to be welded such just a bunch of spot welds? I installed my floor and firewall in one day. Had it all out in one day too.

By the way that was the first body work I have ever done.
Yes, it is a whole lot more work, because you also need to remove the torque boxes,and clean up the entire edge of the pan where is welds. Also, the entire perimeter needs to be welded- all four sides. Also, one should really run some beads at the top where the pan attaches to the inner rockers for added support.

I hope that your testament about how achievable it is encourages our Camaro brother here. You're right, even with no bodywork experience,its a weekend job
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Old Sep 15th, 07, 10:25 AM
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In retrospect I would do full pan in my coupe. I'm gonna call the full pan 54" square, that's 216 linear inches to be welded plus the seat boxes. If you just install the half sides you can add 108 more inches to weld and you still have to do something with the seat boxes. With the welding skills and patience I have the less welding (and grinding)the better.

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Old Sep 16th, 07, 06:22 AM
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I had a full length right side floor pan and a left rear floor pan installed on my 69. I also purchased a new right side front seat pan to save some time. I also had the shop fix two subframe mounts and install new subframe bushings. i spent around $2500 for everything. I thought I only needed one subframe mount to be repaired, but turned out I needed two. Before the shop picked up my car, I had the transmission out which was getting rebuilt but I also removed the seats, carpet, and console.
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Old Sep 16th, 07, 06:34 AM
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Ya I meant no offense either bob.
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Old Sep 16th, 07, 10:38 AM
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did mine with sides from toeboard to rear seat.then had to weld pieces under seat.was a royal pain in they you know where.that took me a week to do both sides & skim the joints with glass & bondo.they didn't have full pans when i did mine .then 2 months after i got them in wa la full pans came out.then i put a set of full pans in my buddies vert it was so sweet ,cut old one out with plasma cutter & welded new one in from top side all the way down rocker & across back then welded in at front super easy if you can weld at all the body shop wanted 1600 to cut my old one out & put new one in.so i bought me a used miller welder off e-bay for 600.00 & did my own I've learned 80% of everything you do on these cars is not that bad.most body shops only want insurance claims because that's where the big money is at.ive done floors full trunk frame rails full quarters tailpan put new doors fenders hood on & I've never done body work on the scale that i have on this 69 i have.just measure before you cut & brace it good.if i had farmed all this out i couldn't afford to have a camaro because body shops around here get 50-60 a hour & half the time they are charging you time on your car they are also charging some one else at same time to work on their car.i know this because i have people i know who works on other peoples cars.he said that it wasn't unusual for shops to charge 2 people at same time & only be working on 1 car at time. go for it but always try & put the biggest parts in like a full trunk or a full floor so there is less welding & filling
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Ya I meant no offense either bob.

Oh no, none taken at all. I'm just glad folks are doing this stuff themselves. It helps to keep this as a hobby for all of us. Nothing better than doing the work yourself.... That way, you know what you've got,and save a pile of $ in the process.
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It cost me somewhere around $1500 @ $38/hr to have mine done including the floor. Labor rates will vary the costs from shop to shop.

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Old Sep 18th, 07, 02:45 PM
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Am I hearing this correctly? A full floor pan is easier than two full sides? This post caught my eye since I plan on replacing the floor in my 69 this winter. I've explored both options and I decided to go with the two full sides. Perhaps you guys may change my mind. The full floors come with the structural supports attached correct? For those who performed this operation, how was the car jigged when the floor was completely cut out of the car. Any alignment problems? What was the process to fit that giant piece of sheet metal into the car? How do the structural supports tie into the rockers? Sorry for so many questions but at first glance this looks like a nightmare.
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Old Sep 18th, 07, 02:52 PM
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I supported my car at the very rear of the rockers,and also at the front cowl mounts. The subframe must be removed, as well as the rear end,springs,etc. The floor is brought in from the front, and bottom. Be sure you have enough space between the jackstands so that the panel will swing through. Tip the rear of the new floor upward and back,then drop it in. This is all after you have removed the old one, of course Make sure you clean the edges so that the floor pan will have a flush surface to butt up against. The full floors do in fact have the supports welded on,all except the seat platforms,which are available separately. Even the torque boxes are pre-installed.

It took me a weekend by myself to finish it. After seeing the final results,I would never patch a floor again.
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Old Sep 18th, 07, 08:30 PM
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Bob, would that be true for a convertible? I see a few "extra" parts under there on my new project. Looks like bracing and extra support that is either a weld or bolt on. Nothing like it on my 68 coupe.

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Old Sep 19th, 07, 07:38 AM
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Easier? That depends. But I think it is easier to make look very clean since you won't have any weld seams to grind. We already had my pan out and it only took a day to weld in the firewall and floor pan. Came out better than factory.
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Old Sep 19th, 07, 11:30 AM
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For those who performed the full floor pan replacement, how did you support and brace the car while cutting out the floor? Did you have any alignment problems afterwards? How do the structural floor braces get attached to the rockers? I'm planning on replacing the floor in my 69 this winter but I was going to use the full sides which include the tunnel section.
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