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Old May 5th, 08, 04:52 PM
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Hello,

i found what i believe to be a pretty rare 69 camaro...its been sitting in a garage for the past 33+ years.....its an original L78 69 RS/SS...the cowl tag reads - - for special paint...the car is all black, no stripes with a silver rs grille...big block hood, console gauges, factory tach, backup lights, the antenna is in the rear on the passenger side quarter.....he said the original short block was hurt back in the early 70's but still has the heads which are casting number 3919840 date codes H28 8 and J29 8...the trans he is saying is the original TH400 and it has a yellow tag on it that reads C69x 335 X and CX69 1231 the code on the cowl tag is 12A for production....the original shortblock is gone but it does still have the original 12 bolt rearend in it, factory front disc brakes and big block heater core...the car is an early production non X-code car...it was norwood built...the interior is in beautiful shape..standard black.....any info you can give would be great...car's value, what casting numbers and date codes to look for to build a numbers matching 396, etc.....thanks....
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Old May 5th, 08, 05:45 PM
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Call me an ambulance!!! Sounds awesome, everythings there! There is a 272 casting 4bolt block on this site for sale but I think its Jan, to late for that car.
Good luck with that I'd be all over it even if I had to sell some cars
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Old May 5th, 08, 05:57 PM
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There are plenty of specific, physical clues to check for if it is in fact unrestored as it sounds it is. Parts can get changed over the years of course, but you can usually tell fairly easily on an unrestored car.

Check the tach, the crossmember, the fuel and brake systems and components, firewall piercings, chalk marked X code behind the rear seat, etc. Of course, you will also want to check every part # and date code on the car.
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Old May 5th, 08, 06:38 PM
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if car does not have an X code on tag, would it still have X code behind rear seat?
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Old May 5th, 08, 06:47 PM
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if car does not have an X code on tag, would it still have X code behind rear seat?
It's a pretty good possibility.
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Old May 5th, 08, 11:29 PM
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Mine is a May car. That one sounds good. Can't help with value but here's a look at the my trany before a wash last year, then the X code. Can you post some pictures?


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Old May 7th, 08, 10:09 AM
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the car does have an X2 chalked behind the seat..what does that code stand for?
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Old May 7th, 08, 10:43 AM
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It's my understanding that it makes the car somewhat desirable.
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Old May 7th, 08, 12:05 PM
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X2 stands for X22 which is Big Block SS with Style Trim or RS package.
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Old May 7th, 08, 12:26 PM
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thanks for the help...how rare is this car for the fact that its all black (special paint) with a silver RS grille? i have yet to find another one searching the net?
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Old May 7th, 08, 01:36 PM
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If it is not a numbers matching engine now, chances are it will never be. You can find the right block and date code, it will only be a date correct engine. Not a numbers matching. Don't let people tell you it is numbers matching, when its not.
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Old May 7th, 08, 01:59 PM
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i just mean how rare it is with the black paint, no stripes, no spoiler, silver grille, antenna in the rear? i have never seen one like this before?
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Old May 7th, 08, 02:07 PM
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All L78 cars are desirable and rare
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All black cars had silver grilles I think and can't imagine the rear antenea adds much value. The value is in the L78.

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Old May 7th, 08, 09:35 PM
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i just mean how rare it is with the black paint, no stripes, no spoiler, silver grille, antenna in the rear? i have never seen one like this before?
Nothing special about Tuxedo Black though GM hated painting cars black in the day. Nothing special about being "spoiler-less". You'd never know it but not many non-Z28 cars had the spoilers (RPO option D80),..probably about 5%. Silver grill would have been the call on a black car as stated above.

The special paint code may have been a hockey stripe "delete". Hockey stripes were used on SS's which all 396 cars were. Is it original paint? Hockey stripes?

How many fuel lines, tank to engine bay? Q-Jet 396's got two fuel lines,..a 3/8" main and a 1/4" return. Holley equipped 396's (L78 for instance) only had one 3/8" fuel line.
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