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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 12:09 PM
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So I was reading around here, and I happen to notice quite a few people who have dipped into the 11's on their cars.
What exactly is needed to do this?
Smalllblock? Big Block?
I would really like to keep it small block if possible.
What are some suggestions on the setup I could try? I am building a new motor this winter, and would like to price everything out.

I want it to be reliable enough to cruise around in.
Run on pump gas [91/93 octane]

Can it be done? What kind of combo am I looking at building?
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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 02:46 PM
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Well, I plan on hitting the 11's this season, so I guess I can chime in. Until I get my slip, I guess I am a poser, but it is easier than ever to get in the 11's. An mild big block with heads and a cam could do it. The aftermarket small block heads currently available make big power pretty attainable. I would suggest a 383 with AFR heads, a hydraulic roller cam, and a 3000ish ATI, BTE, etc. converter.
There are some great combos on this site. Search and take a peek at some of them.

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400 '509' block 2 bolt main
10.3:1
Aluminum Canfield 195 cc CNC chamber bowl blended heads
239/249 @ .050 278/288 .550 lunati solid flat tappet
Edelbrock RPM intake
750 speed demon mechanical secondaries
Mallory 140 pump
HEI w/ 50,000 volt coil
Mallory box
1 3/4" headers
2 1/2" Torque Tech exhaust w/ Flowmasters (cutouts also)
TH400 w/ TransGo manual valvebody
BTE 3400-3800 converter
12 bolt posi 3.90
275/60R/15 mickey thompson DR's
Koni SPA-1 front shocks
6 cyl front springs
Monos w/ traction bars


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It had a very mild 350/ TH350 combo in it before, and the car is just freakishly different
the difference is night and day
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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 02:51 PM
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Mild Bigblock.

Large Smallblock.

Start with what you have and make it bigger.
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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 02:55 PM
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My combo is super street freindly and could make for a daily driver if you wanted. Specs on it are in my signature. Let me know if you need anymore info!
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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 03:27 PM
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there a a few streetable 10 sec small block combos on here too
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Old Jun 2nd, 08, 03:56 PM
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I had a 420 SBC that dipped 9.90's on pump gas....
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 04:26 AM
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So I was reading around here, and I happen to notice quite a few people who have dipped into the 11's on their cars.
What exactly is needed to do this?
Smalllblock? Big Block?
I would really like to keep it small block if possible.
What are some suggestions on the setup I could try? I am building a new motor this winter, and would like to price everything out.

I want it to be reliable enough to cruise around in.
Run on pump gas [91/93 octane]

Can it be done? What kind of combo am I looking at building?
You can do it with a daily driver/tow car. My 3475# Nova ran 11.75 @ 117 with a mild 406/700R4 and got 18 mpg on the road. You need to emphasize the power in the rpm range that you spend the most time in, in my case 3500-5500 rpm.
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 05:27 AM
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I had a 420 SBC that dipped 9.90's on pump gas....
I figured there may be some of those
can we hear more details please
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 06:35 AM
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Like others have said, a small block will do it easy if it is a larger one. You need great heads and some converter will help a lot. I ran 11.74 with:

406- stock crank and rods, 9.5:1
AFR 195 heads
Edelbrock performer RPM cam- 234/244, .488/.510 hydraulic flat
Performer RPM intake
Holley 750 DP
3.73 gears, 4200 stall

Nothing fancy. I went to hydraulic roller and dropped another half second.

Have fun!
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 07:10 AM
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Lonnie67 and I have run 11's with 383's....

Both of us have Edelbrock Performer RPM heads that we have owned for several years, we both have over 10:1 compression and soild cams in the 240'ish duration with a little better than .500 lift. Lonnie ran 11's with his old setup which was about 9.5:1 compression and a hydraulic cam with 230'ish duration.
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 09:16 AM
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My car's a 4-speed, not an auto so I dont need a converter...
I am really against swapping in an automatic, even if it makes me a bit faster.. It took me forever to find a 4-speed car.. and to me its a LOT more fun to drive 4-speed than auto... and I bought the car to have fun..

I just want something I can cruise around in, and take to the track once in a while..
Streetable/reliability definitely takes precedence over 1/4 mile time though, since it will only see the track a few times per summer maybe.
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 09:20 AM
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Lonnie67 uses his camaro as his daily driver....so I suppose that's as reliable as you can get.
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Old Jun 3rd, 08, 09:51 AM
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Like others have said, a small block will do it easy if it is a larger one. You need great heads and some converter will help a lot. I ran 11.74 with:

406- stock crank and rods, 9.5:1
AFR 195 heads
Edelbrock performer RPM cam- 234/244, .488/.510 hydraulic flat
Performer RPM intake
Holley 750 DP
3.73 gears, 4200 stall

Nothing fancy. I went to hydraulic roller and dropped another half second.

Have fun!

Greg....That 1/2 second drop swapping to the HR cam is REALLY tempting to do over the winter! Are combos are very similar.....
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