[MarkM]

I like the idea of a 67-69 camaro being able to perform as well or better as a new sports/performance car. For my next project camaro I want an all around performance car but not just a race car. I would like to spend no more than 30-40K, and here is what I've come up with so far. Front suspension, I would go with the complete Global west package. I'm not sure on the rear but it would not be leaf springs, I'm leading toward a three link, oval track style mounting with coil-overs, and narrowed 9". Oringinal looking tubs would be made to hold a large tire. Front wheels 17x8, with 4.25" back spacing, with 255/45 ZR17. Rear would be a 335/40 ZR17 on a 17x10 wheel.
Power train:Motor would be a 540 cid with Dart pro-1 heads, roller, Force Fuel ingection custum EFI, like to get around 700hp. Transmision would have to be a stick so I belive a Tremec is rated to handle the most power, or possibly a T-56.
Body would be a 67 or 68 because I like them just a little more than a 69. To offset the extra weight of the big block I may consider fiber glass fenders, innner fenders, and defenitly a cowl hood.
Interior would remain relatively stock in appearence except for some recaro seats, auto-meter gauges and a vintage air system.
I have alot more ideas but I don't want to bore you anymore, it's just fun to think about my next pro-touring style camaro. Going for a cross between the Big Red 69 camaro, and the Steilow thrasher camaro. What do you think, any ideas or projects of your own in the making. 1st gen camaro's rule!

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[gheatly]

You might look into the Art Rasumussen front subframe which uses Corvette front suspension pieces. The basic Corvette geometry was maintained and there is no telling how much in R&D GM spent designing it. Also, the Rasmussen frame is lighter than stock.

Anyone can make power with a big block It takes a real man to make the same power with a small block

Why not go with a large displacement small block. Kits are available up to 454 ci and you don't have the extra weight. To make up for the extra 100 cubes, install a centrifugal supercharger or a turbo (see this month's Chevy High Performance for a cool turbo article. They say 650 hp with a mild 350, EFI, and a single turbo is easily in reach). Agree on the stick.

I am building my 69 Camaro along these lines right now. I am trying to talk the wife into the Tremec 5 speed (hopefully to be installed this spring). The current Muncie and 3.73 rear gears don't mix well on the highway.

Also, you can't build a pro touring car without the giant 13 inch Baer disc brakes with the 6 piston Alcon calipers.

[tples69]

Well said. Build a monster light-weight mouse. The weight savings of the SBC, ARDF frame in addition to the fiberglass front end will make a big difference. My front end with all steel panels and hood, ls1 and ardf suspension weighs 200+ pounds less than the stock front end with a small block. I'll guess a SBC is close to 100 lbs lighter than a BBC.

Check out my project at http://communities.msn.com/cormaro

[MarkM]

A small block would be a better choice as far a shedding weigh, but to get the h.p. figures I'm wanting I think a big block is the only way to go. I liked Stielows 18* motor but I'm sure that is a 15k+ enginge, and you could build a awesome 540 for under 10k. If you consider a small block with a turbo or supercharger, all that weight will add up to be close to the BB al. heads. A turbo engine with intercooler and other excessories may even be more.The art ram. front suspension looks great but it appears to me that with steering and front Baer brakes you're over 9k, seems a little steep for just a front suspension.

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[1st & 2nd GENGuy]

It must be nice to have that kinda cash. I would strongly consider going with a fourth gen LS-1.

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[MarkM]

4th gen are nice but they just do'nt have the style of a 1st gen.

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[SSRat427]

One of the coolest things about trying to define the ultimate Camaro is all the ideas everyone gets for their own ultimate Camaro. I spent a number of years trying to define what I wanted. It's not the ultimate, but it's been a hoot for me to drive.

My car is a 67 SS convertible, ARDF front clip, 96 vette rear suspension, big block, Richmond 6spd tranny, big honkin' wheels and tires, brakes that will bruise you with the harness', comfy seats, and generally some of the goodies to make it fun for just about any trip.

I try to drive it any time it's not raining. When it rains, I take my 67 Chevelle.


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[DOUG G]

a guy i meet at the track was running 9.25's @143-7 in an s-10...to my suprise it was an all aluminum 434ci...out of a sprint car no less...so just goes to show ya smallblocks can make th HP. (even if its alum.)

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[FrstgenJon]

I am jealous that you got the cash to do this but I would try a killer small block. Nothing like being able to take out a big block with a small block. Like others have said take a look at this months CHP very good articles.And there is one with a 67 that has a ARDF front clip and also a irs from ARDF. But if you got the cash then build a crazy trubo motor. Good luck with your project.

[Racing]

You´ll need one of these;

or a similar Jericho or a Sayenz


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[MarkM]

Who make that tranny? What kind of gear ratios can you get? What about overdrive? How much?

[gheatly]

MarkM,

The Rassmussen front end is no where near $9,000, its more like $4,000. The subframe costs $1,900 and you can get the rest of the parts for the remainder, especially if you get the Corvette parts used. I called and got all of the info.

Also, when they make the 4th gen doors out of good ole steel, I'll buy one. I can't stand the sound they make when you close those cheap plastic doors.

[Racing]

Liberty builds them still,based on the DNE housing.
Ratios?
Anything your heart desires

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[Inspeccter]

Life must be pretty tough to have 40k to spend on a camaro. I am trying to build one for no more than 15k, and it's gonna take a LONG time to complete that project. I only say that because I am jealous. I would spend that on mine in a second if it were possible for me to do it. Good luck, and have fun.....(how could you not have fun with that budget!!!) =)

[MarkM]

Wow that post was a while back. That price is out of my budget, it's more like a budget I hope to have someday. I must say my ideas have changed some since this post. Like I would rather have the Rasmussen subframe and a SB2 headed all aluminum small block. It's fun to dream.

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