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Old Oct 19th, 10, 10:04 PM
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Default 69 Grandma to COPO Clone Resto... One step at a time!

Well here we go again... One more time with feeling!

Here is my 69 Grandma car I purchased recently. Bought it from a little 88 year old lady, who was the Original owner. Bought just a few streets over from me, in my neighborhood. Car was purchased new locally and according the little old lady she was the only person that has ever driven the car, until I came along.

I was on the fence about what to do with the car as it is a 6 cylindar car.

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Here is how it looked just before it went into the shop.



Here is the resto plan, that will be done in stages, as I want to pay for it as I go. My friend has a shop and he is letting me do as much work as I can, that my limited skill set will allow. Mainly grunt and shop schlepper work. I will pay for the parts and he will only bill me for the stuff I can't do.

I call it the 10 step plan. My buddy did not give me an estimate but said he would bill me for each step as we go. That will allow me to drive away anytime and return anytime, cash flow depending.

Step one:
Change Rear Passenger quarter, including Outter wheel well.

Step Two:
Remove rear glass and fix window channel rust, and re install so it won't leak. It currently leaks like a sive!

Step Three:
Fix Front passeneger lower fender rust

Step Four:
Romove front Windshield, fix any window channel rust issues. Same issue as rear glass.

Step Five:
Fix Upper cowl and dash pannel rust

Step Six:
Remove all paint to bare metal, prep and primer.
add front & rear spoilers

Step Seven:
Paint car Original color Dover White

Step Eight:
Prep secondary subframe complete with disc breaks, suspension, steering box, brake lines, fully painted

Step Nine:
Install Big Block in subframe with trans

Step Ten:
Drop current subframe, detail firewall install complete subframe.

This might all be a fantasy and I might only get to step one, but I am there right now and here is what I did today. Cut off the quarter to see what was underneath and determine what parts to order. Going with an 80% panel as they call it. Once we have the part in hand tomorrow, we will decide the best place to cut and mount. Also going to replace either all or some of the outter wheel well.



The repair that was done to this quarter by the previous shop was hysterical to say the least. It has this tinfoil type of tape all over it and bondo as thick as peanut butter, just slopped on all over the place on top of the tinfoil and rust. We got a real kick out of it.



I was actually surprised with the lack of rust on the outter wheel well as I was expecting to find hell inside the quarter. Also the rear drop off looks like it can be used, so overall happy with the results so far.



So like I was saying that I was undecided on what to do with car, as there was so much great advice. Everything from don't touch it at all and just drive it as is, to Todd's suggestion to go with the COPO Clone. Once Todd sent me the article of the 69 ZL1 that looked almost exactly like my car, the deal was done. That was yesterday and today I am well on my way to somewhere, with any luck.

The way I figure it, no matter how far I get I will always be one step further ahead than I am now. The overall plan is to preserve as much of the car as possible and keep as original as possible. It will be a gradual resto that I can drive as often as possible, and I can stop and restart anytime with funds allowing it. No plans to touch any of the interior at all at this point. It will be a basic repair paint and drive train resto, that I hope won't be too expensive, and will give me a nice driver that I won't be afraid to drive anywhere. Who knows anything can change in this crazy world, but for now I am just going to take it one step at a time...

I have to thank everyone on this site for showing such great support and giving me great advice even if I didn't want to hear it. I hope that this thread will continue until it is done. It won't be a really in depth major resto, but I think that it will be one that I can manage and complete, a very important deatil as I attempted to restor my 68, and needless to say it did not make it to completion. Onward and upward...
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Old Oct 19th, 10, 10:23 PM
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Holy crap Mike. You dove feet first into this project. Go with what you want. Good luck with that 1/4 panel.
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Old Oct 19th, 10, 10:40 PM
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Hi Mike,

I think your already in better shape then you were with the 68. And she is definitely cleaner inside than I would have thought considering the rear window leak. Stick with your plan and I think you will end up with a real sweet little daily driver. Don't let the grind get to you just come back to this 1st post of yours once and a while to remind yourself where your going and you should be good. enjoy the trip.

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Old Oct 19th, 10, 11:19 PM
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Holy crap Mike. You dove feet first into this project. Go with what you want. Good luck with that 1/4 panel.
Thanks John I haven't talked to you for a while. How is your car coming along?

I have learned so much here, and from my last build that I actually feel like I might be making the right choices this time around. I did learn from the last go at it, that I really need a Camaro to drive and enjoy. Who knows, when I strike it rich I may have another idea, but for now it's quarter panel time. Hopefully some good progress tomorrow.

Stay safe John and post some pics of your car.
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Old Oct 19th, 10, 11:24 PM
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Hi Mike,

I think your already in better shape then you were with the 68. And she is definitely cleaner inside than I would have thought considering the rear window leak. Stick with your plan and I think you will end up with a real sweet little daily driver. Don't let the grind get to you just come back to this 1st post of yours once and a while to remind yourself where your going and you should be good. enjoy the trip.

Kevin.
Hey Kevin how are you doing? How is the 68 making out? Did you get everything sorted?

Actually I also started a bit on the rear window channel today and so far it is really good except for one hole where it leaked. I still have to remove all of the window goo from the bottom. That stuff is hard as a rock and to to get out. I hope I get lucky.

I would love to hear about any progress you have made on the car, it has been a while now, and your build was looking really good last time you posted.
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Old Oct 19th, 10, 11:31 PM
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I like the car and COPO clone idea. I am following your build. Keep the pics coming...
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Cool Car, Cool Project. Very similar to what I am doing with mine. Looking forward to watching your progress...
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Old Oct 20th, 10, 03:34 AM
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I like what you are doing. I think you would be happier with a full quarter than with the 80% quarter. The car is all original and it deserves a full quarter.

You will have bondo all over the quarter with a 80% quarter.
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Old Oct 20th, 10, 03:55 AM
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80% quarters are 100% more work. For some reason people think that because less sheetmetal is being replaced it means less labor, which is incorrect. I've never used an 80% and never would, but over the years I've done countless panel replacements including skins. Read this about 80% quarters: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...t=full+quarter

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I think this will turn out SWEET! Can't wait to see the final product-- heck it will be fun to see the transformation too. Don't be shy with that camera. We want pics! We want pics!

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I like what you are doing. I think you would be happier with a full quarter than with the 80% quarter. The car is all original and it deserves a full quarter.

You will have bondo all over the quarter with a 80% quarter.
X2, Gotta wipe her down the whole side with bondo..
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Old Oct 20th, 10, 07:08 AM
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x3 You will be able to hide all the plug or spot welds (whichever the bodyman chooses) all on the factory seams--not in the middle of panels. Full quarter gets my vote too.
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Nice car... and it sounds like a great plan!
To save money you should skip the last part of step 6.
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Mike,

I haven't touched her in a while trying my best to wrap up the divorce thing and finish some outdoor reno jobs before the white stuff starts flying up here. There is some hope that we are coming to the end of the legal stuff though. I also made the decision to order up a roof brace kit mostly for the front brace but discovered a few issues with the braces in the kit, so I am working with my supplier and the manufacture to come to some type of terms on how to handle the issues.
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Kevin-- great to see you on here again. I know those legal battles can't be fun or easy, but chin up, you'll plow through it all. We will still be here when you dive in full throttle again.
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