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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:15 AM
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Default 67 Camaro - Dad and Son build

Well Ill give a bit of history on the car and will try to update as we go, have problems, questions ect. The car was a plane jane 1967 camaro that has been in my family since 1969. My grandfather worked for GM his whole life and in 1967 when the camaro came out a manager at where my grandfather worked got a 1967 camaro in butternutt yellow with a 327, powerglide and not to many options. Well in 1969 when the body was revised that manager wanted to get a 1969 camaro. So his 1967 was then put up for auction and my grandfather having 6 kids all around the driving age put a bid in of $200 for the car. Well as the story has it he won the car. My dad tells me stories of when my grandfather brought the car home and he wanted the car. The car was then passes along the girls (my aunts) up untill 1991 where it was then parked. My dad always told himself that one day he would have the car. Around 2000 me and my dad went and picked the car up from my aunts house. We picked at the car little by little not really knowing where to start. Up untill now.

I have been doing alot of research and I think/hope these are going to be the final plans for the car. I will be getting pictures up the next time I am at the car. We plan on holding off on the body as it pretty much needs everything at this point and we have decided for this summer to try to tackle the mechanical stuff and make the car a great driver first. Please if you have some opinions/comments share. Input is always a good thing. The goal for the car is going to basically be a great cruiser with a couple of dragstrip trips in store and mabye road/auto course later down the road. We want to be able to run at least mid-low 11's with the car. Around 550-600 wheel. With that in mind..here is the current list..and the current wish list for the car.

Current:
Energy Suspension Poly Kit
Speed tech solid aluminum body mounts
Competition Engineering subframe connectors
QA1 front coil-overs
Corbeau CR1 Front seats
Cragar S/S- 17 x 8 w/245 tire (front) 17 x 9 w/ 275 tire (rear)
Wilwood 12.1 drilled/slotted -6 piston(front) 4 piston(rear)
Ricks Stainless Tank (efi)
Moser 12 bolt ( 35 spline, wavetrac, 3.73)
prodigy 4 link w/ QA1 coil-overs
DSE mini tub
Anvil Carbon fiber (cowl panel, header panel, front spoiler, hood, trunk)

Wish list:
LSX 454 GMPP crate motor or
LS7
T56 Magnum 6-speed kit
Anvil Carbon fiber ( rear spoiler)
Stainless brake lines
Weld draglite wheels w/ MT slicks (track duty)

Stuff for sale:
Comp Engineering sub-frame connectors (brand new)

Need to decide/figure out many things still I know that. Im still doing alot of reading on the ls motors but Im deffinitly going FI..any input on the set-up..? Clutch set-up recommended..? Thanks Steven
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:16 AM
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So the following has been order.:
Moser 12 bolt rear 3.73 gear 35 spline wavetrack diff.
Wilwood full brake set up. 6 piston up front and 4 piston in the rear 12.1 drilled/slotted rotors all around.
Ricks stainless steel tank set up for efi.

Big thanks to frank over at prodigy customs..next up is the t56 magnum and the lsx 454 soon after that...its going to be an awsome summer and I have been waiting and dreaming of doing this with me father for the last 10 years...

Heres an update from last week..we have takin apart almost the whole car and are waiting till next winter or summer to tackle the body. Its just to much money to put out at once...we basically need everything body wise so we decided to just get the car in perfect working order first and then worry about how it looks. With that being said the whole car is basically stripped and ready for some new parts. Here is where we are at now.

Ready for the pull, bye bye old 327 and powerglide...


Out and conquered...haha



Also heres my other car that ive had since highschool thanks to my dads help...its my daily also..




and having alittle fun


and another project I have going on..this will be my daily once its done..



and one of the car I finished (old dd) and sold for a ring for my fiancee



I guess you can say I like cars....the camaro was and always will be my first love though...
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:17 AM
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Thanks guys..the body is going to look like hell but she'll have everything she needs to run with the best of em..haha..project A.G.N.S ..haha..

Heres where the car is at right now..


old frame..


and new.


and compairson.
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:17 AM
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Alright guys..need some help here...EFI or Carb? Heres the motor Im going with:

I have questions for both. I have done research on both and from what I have gathered EFI seems to be more expensive for this motor because I basically need everything..enlighten me please..

EFI:
All wiring
ECU
Tune
All Accessories
Injectors
Intake Manifold
Ignition Coils
Throttle body
Oil Pan
Oil pump pick up
Headers

Carb:
Carb (What size, Manufacturer?)
Ignition (MSD 6010 or 19171130 off of www.crateenginedepot.com ?)
Intake Manifold (19244033 off of www.crateenginedepot.com or Edelbrock?)
All Accessories (Which kit will fit the stock subframe and go it with out any/too much modification?
19243525 off of www.crateenginedepot.com
19155066 off of www.crateenginedepot.com
19155067 off of www.crateenginedepot.com
Oil Pan (19212593 off of www.crateenginedepot.com) fit stock subframe?
Oil pump pick up
Headers

Ive tried to see what others have done with this motor but because it is new not many have run it that I can find..I believe it is the same set up as a ls7 correct..? I dont want to just rule out EFI untill I know it is not suited for me. The car will be a nice cruiser with some drag strip trips in store. I feel like I might be leaning to carb set up because it seems to be easier and I just want to really weight both options fully. Help me guys. Thanks Steven
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:17 AM
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Well stuff is starting to come in..its wilwood heaven..here is some quick pictures..

emmm...6 piston..


theres the old man holding some two piece goodness..




hopefully well see the rear soon.. Big Thanks To Frank and all the prodigy customs guys...A+++ service..
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:18 AM
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Alright so I went to the old mans house last night and started putting the brake kit together. Still need to strip the old drum hubs and get them all ready but that will probley be tonight or this weekend..hope to have the brakes pretty wraped up by monday.. heres some pictures..and btw safety wiring is not fun...

Heres me and my younger brother trying to figure it all out..


Me messing around..


Slowly getting there..


and we brought the wheels out for test fitting..


front and back...



more updates coming soon..
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:18 AM
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OK...got most of the front brakes together this weekend...alot more steps then I would have thought of..but overall not to bad..cleaned up the old spindals and they look so much better now. Only have the pass side fully together and the drive will be put together tonight..heres is some pictures..





Hopefully the rear will come today..
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:19 AM
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well its here and I finally got to open up the box and work on it some...not the best pictures but they will do for now..The rear was ordered with no finish as me and my dad said we would just por-15 it in the same black that we did the front frame. We got it all out, set it up and did the first two steps of the process..degrease, then rinse with water, metal ready, then rinse with water again...let dry...open up the can of por-15 and its solid as a rock..so we order more paint today and hopefully well have it by the weekend. We should have what we need after its painted to put the rear all together as a rolling assembly.

As for the front frame when we had the powder coater do the front arm and other little things we didnt think about the ball joints and sure enough they where toast. So we ordered new upper and lower ball joints and they should be here by friday also. We also ordered the AIM manual and the alingment shims. Hopefully the sub frame can be a rolling assembly also soon. Anyone care to chime in on if I have the steering arms mounted correctly? I believe they are to face twords the rear of the car...


Onto the pictures...

OHHHH AAHHHH




sanded and ready for some paint


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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:19 AM
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Ok so the box from ricks camaro never came and I wanted to do the front end today also. At least get the new ball joints pressed in the upper and lower arms..but no fedex. So I just worked on the rear. The por-15 came in yesterday so I went over to my dads and painted the rear with two coats. After that I put the rear brake assembly together and the alxes in. Also grabbed the rear wheels to see what there gonna look like. Here are the pictures..













Mabye tommorow I will get over there and start on the front frame..if not deff by tuesday...more updates coming soon..:cheers:
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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:20 AM
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Ok..after many curse words and a couple busted/bruised body parts. I finally have the start of the front assembly together. Not the best of pictures but its better than nothing. I have to get the caps for the upper control arms still and get all the steering cleaned up and gather my bearings on what Im going to need to buy. In other news the Stainless tank should be here sooner than later...next up. Brake lines and mabye por-15 some stuff...more updates coming soon..





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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:20 AM
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got the s/s tank from ricks...thanks frank!! next on the list is the transmission..brake lines, and fuel lines..more updates coming soon..big install once the tranny is ordered and arrives..heres some quick blurry pictures..





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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:20 AM
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alright ladies/gentleman its been a while but money and time don't grow on trees. Late in the summer we had someone come by and take a look at my shell. Basically the guy told us to even start with that shell your looking at 25k. Well that is out of the question. So me and my dad have been eying this shell. Only problem is that is was over 5 hours away. So we saved up and made the trip this past weekend. After a 14 straight hours and many miles..here what we got.







so me and my dad rented a 6'x12' enclosed trailer from uhaul only to get there after a 5 plus hours drive and realize that the smallest opening on the trailer is 5 1/2' so there is no pulling the car on..had to lift the car in the air over the trailer and then lower it. To say it was tight was an understatement. But all in all it was worth it because now it all done.







and now I need franks help. The car I got has one of your 4 link set ups on it. The problem is my rear does not have the brackets I need. The guy I bought everything off of said that they make a bracket (in the picture to the left) that can be bolted to the leaf spring mount.The other bracket (in the picture to the right) has to be welded on to my rear. I need to know where to find that bracket and also the dimensions or some kind of guide as to where to weld those on at. Any help is greatly appreciated guys. Thanks and talk to you soon, Steven

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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:21 AM
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So I worked on the car this weekend. Figured out the subframe assembly and speedtech solid mounts. I also have polyurethane mounts but figured if I don't like the solid mounts I can always switch them out. The undercoating should be here tomorrow. So hopefully that will start soon. I also stripped and painted the U bolts for the rear assembly and received the brackets I need to start putting the rear together. Hopefully the assembly of that will start tomorrow night after work. More updates to cone soon.

Two questions for you guys.

1. How does moser know the angle that would be needed for the 4 link set up? I know they have a jig but wouldn't ever car be different?

2. I have to weld in the upper support for the dash. Anyone know where I can see some info on this..? Measurements? Ect..?









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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:21 AM
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So finished test fitting the rear yesterday night to make sure everything is good in that area. The upper brackets will need to be welded to the rear but from what im told I wont be able to find that angle untill I have a motor and trans so that will have to wait for now. Im picking up the undercoating tonight and hoping to start that this weekend. Everything will be removed from the car and the whole underside, trunk and interior floor/firewall will be done. More pictures and updates to come soon. Also I think eventually Ill need some bigger wheels and tires all around. Mainly in the rear. My 17x9 w/ 275/45 are just lost in those tubs. Any one have something that will fit better for the right price..? Heres some pictures..














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Old Mar 10th, 11, 07:22 AM
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Merry Christmas everyone.!! My wife really suprised me with this wonderful gift and they where supposly out of stock. Big thanks to anvil for the great service and fast shipping.





In other news I am looking for a decent set of fenders and am going to start putting it all together for test fitting..then the body work will start. Hoping the updates will come often when that starts. Hope everyone has a merry Christmas
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