[Andrew69]

What type and size screw goes into the corner at the front of the 1/4 side glass, top of the windlace area? How in the world do you align everything up to get the screw into the original threaded hole?

[Everett#2390]

A #6 x 1/4 flathead sheet metal screw.
Maybe 5/16 inch long. You could also use an 'undercut' flathead screw, meaning the backside of the screw head has been cut, not a complete 'V'.
If you remember the size of screwdriver used to remove, a #1 Phillips tip goes with a #4 screw, where a #2 Phillips tip goes with #6 to #10 screw.
Trim hole could be in the wrong position, or trim needs more movement.
Measure the length between holes of both trim/windlace/fuzzy and qtr panel to see if they match. If not, choose one piece to drill a new hole.
Before installing screws, run your screwdriver across a speaker magnet to magnetize the screw to the screwdriver. Once it falls into the qtr panel, its gone.
This magnetizing will only work if you use carbon steel screws vice stainless steel screws, then use bubble gum. Use antiseize on the threads to protect from rusting.

[Andrew69]

Done. Thank you very much for your help Everette.

[Sauron67MM]

That's not the right screw. I don't have one for immediate viewing but it's not chrome, the head is flat and smaller.

[Andrew69]

Done (I think). A couple of screws from the local hardware store. They had flat black screws of this size but the shortest was about 1" long. These are a kind of antique bronze color. Dark, but not black. Are they a more original GM appearance?

[Sauron67MM]

Nope, that's an oval head and the head diameter is too large. I can provide a photo but not right away. I thought I posted one on CRG but it's been a long time.

[Garfields Maro]

c'mon...oval headed ??....probably just sunk into the rubber more on top & bottom.

Well, I just looked at mine and pretty sure they're not OE....look very similar to your latest Andrew, only not bronze. If I recall, had to use a larger screw as the metal there aint much and what I had wouldn't tighten down. Suspect you'll have the same problem if you try to use an OE screw.

Scott, is it the same screw as used for 68 reveal molding/outer fuzzy and the wire loom shields along the rockers ? If so, I've got a pic handy if needed....

[Sauron67MM]

Originally Posted by Garfields Maro

c'mon...oval headed ??....probably just sunk into the rubber more on top & bottom.


Scott, is it the same screw as used for 68 reveal molding/outer fuzzy and the wire loom shields along the rockers ? If so, I've got a pic handy if needed....

I did not name them, the industry did. Look it up. The domed/convex head you see is referred to as oval head. Photos in AMK catalog but not identical to original. Terms flat and domed are also used there. Flat head means what the name implies, and that screw head is not flat. Clearly shown by the shadows on the head.

Same as 68 reveal molding, self tapping also. Can't recall exact dimensions of wire cover screw. Other molding screws are not identical to original but have a smaller head diameter also.

[Andrew69]

Yes, that is an oval head screw. Good eye Scott. So the preferred screw is a flat head typically used in a countersunk hole? They have those too, in a flat black color. Their cost is about $0.20 each so it isn't breaking the bank to replace them.
I just don't see how the screw head can be much smaller. It will just pass through the slot and retain nothing.

[Sauron67MM]

Originally Posted by X33D80

Yes, that is an oval head screw. Good eye Scott. So the preferred screw is a flat head typically used in a countersunk hole? They have those too, in a flat black color. Their cost is about $0.20 each so it isn't breaking the bank to replace them.
I just don't see how the screw head can be much smaller. It will just pass through the slot and retain nothing.

It's barely larger than the slot. If the repro slot dimension is too large you may have to use a different screw. Some wheel well molding screws have small heads. They have a different profile but are flat so as not to stick up compared to the oval head you have in there now. You are now running the risk of enlarging the hole. Hardware store screw head to thread dimension relationship is standard. The correct screw head's diameter is not. So you may find the right head diameter but incorrect thread size. I have one correct screw on hand and can probably dig more up. You can have them if I find another one.

[Garfields Maro]

Man, I forgot these photos are so blurry.



Is this the correct screw ?

[Sauron67MM]

Affirmative.

[Garfields Maro]

As mentioned, those were also used for the wire harness sheilds along the door opening...or they were on my car anyway. Might be fairly easy to rob one to see if it'll work....I'm guessing it won't tighten down now after using slightly larger screws.

[Sauron67MM]

Originally Posted by Garfields Maro

As mentioned, those were also used for the wire harness sheilds along the door opening...or they were on my car anyway. Might be fairly easy to rob one to see if it'll work....I'm guessing it won't tighten down now after using slightly larger screws.

He can take a piece of stainless, bend it and put it in the hole to provide more meat for the screw to hold. Burping with a mig aside.

[Andrew69]

I gave it one more try and picked up a pair of black colored flat head screws. The holes are not stripped and the screws pull tight, that is not a problem. The screw heads might be a little too large diameter but this is going to have to do. Thanks for you help guys.