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Old Dec 29th, 12, 01:17 PM
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Default Bumper guards with no rubber inserts

I sold my Camaro and I'm trying to sell a few parts that I have around.

I have a set of Bumper Guards that do not have the rubber strip on them. I saw an add on eBay of a similar set that described them as "early" and "rare".

Is this the case?

They would need to be re-chromed. A bit pitted.

Any guesses as where to start the bidding/reserve?
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Old Dec 29th, 12, 11:13 PM
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No, not rare, but still desirable if original GM. Over 35,000 cars sold in 67 with V32 rear guards. Chrome wasn't great even when new and most any used set will be in need of re-chroming by todays standards.

I was shopping ebay a few years ago and seems selling prices ranged from $75-100 or so...
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 09:14 AM
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Thanks a lot!

This site has always been a great source of information.

I'll be back someday... Perhaps after I retire... I'll be looking for another project. Just too many things happening in life right now to give the car the attention it deserved.

Thanks again
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 12:37 PM
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Is there any way to tell if they are original GM or not?
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 03:10 PM
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Hey Bill, got to thinking about this later....From your description, "no rubber inserts", maybe you're describing the short "bumperettes" that fit on the bottom of the bumper and extend down ?

What year are we talkin' ? 67 bumperettes may be considered "early and rare"....semi rare.
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 03:45 PM
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wow...hope I didn't ruin your sale. lol

Yes, those are what I was describing in my first reply. They were optional (RPO V32). 67 and 68 are the same. They look pretty good and if original GM, I'd say my estimate is in the ballpark. Pretty hard to distinguish original vs repop without actually mounting them on the car as the repops are very close but not a perfect fit.
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 05:58 PM
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Opps... Sorry.

Off the top of my head, it was just the easiest way to show the pictures...

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Old Dec 30th, 12, 09:20 PM
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I've never seen them like that, being solid across the face. How do the rubber inserts attach ? Adhesive ?? 68 has a slot and the inserts have studs that fit into it.

The fasteners, hardware and brackets sure look like GM.

Hopefully someone familar with 67 guards will chime in. I thought 67/8 were the same, but now I'm thinking not.....

If they are GM, they may very well be rare and quite desirable to the purist restorer.
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 09:45 PM
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X2 Garth, never seen them with solid fronts. Like they missed the piercing operation and were chromed anyway and sent out......
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 10:02 PM
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Garth,

You have peaked my curiosity. I stopped the eBay auction.

I got these when I bought the car about 8 or so years ago. Never tried to install them. Could maybe they not be from a Camaro? Never even considered that since they came with the car. Didn't want to sell them as a Camaro part if they were not.

The shape where the bumper goes looks to be about right. The surface on the inside, where the rubber would go, looks like its never been touched. (as if someone welded up a hole and re-chromed)

On one of the guards there appears to be an area that looks like a grinder mark that was pre-chroming. I tried to take a picture of it. I just figured it as a defect. But again, nothing on the inside to indicate any alteration was made.

Sorry for the "Made in China" box in the background
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Old Dec 30th, 12, 10:43 PM
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The profile looks correct for 67/8 Camaro. Do you have a 67 AIM (assembly instruction manual) ? If so, look up V32 and see how the rubber inserts were installed. If it mentions adhesive, I'd be pretty confident those are originals....
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Old Dec 31st, 12, 08:04 AM
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The AIM shows three studs that go through the guard. I had to reduce the file size ion the attached AIM .pdf in order to upload it. It's a little blurry.

Again, nothing in that area on the inside to indicate that the holes were welded up. Flat as can be...

Also looks as if there is a type of recessed pocket that the rubber fits into. However, it is a 45 year old rendering. May not be that detailed of a drawing.
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The chrome piece should have a long slot cut in it where the 3 studs in the rubber go as opposed to 3 individual holes.
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Old Dec 31st, 12, 11:42 AM
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The chrome piece should have a long slot cut in it where the 3 studs in the rubber go as opposed to 3 individual holes.
Your correct, however there's nothing on the face that the rubber would mount to. No holes, no slot, nothing. Just a smooth chromed surface. Smooth and flat on the inside surface as well. To me they don't look like they have been modified in any way.

Any more guesses as to what they are? A defect that was installed at the factory? Different car maybe?

I cant seem to find anything else that even looks close from another car.
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Old Dec 31st, 12, 12:44 PM
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Corvair has a narrow bumper like the Camaro's, try Google "images" and search "Corvair"...
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