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Old Feb 20th, 14, 04:07 PM
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HI all. I bought this car as a roller last July and found this great website shortly after. I’ll copy most of what I stated in the welcome wagon forum but what I am after now is getting an idea of what it’s worth. I am hoping for a little more than “whatever someone will pay for it”. Mostly out of curiosity but I also need to consider insuring it as it sits.
What I can tell you about the car, or what I believe to know about the car is; 1967 RS/SS purchased March ’67 for $3184.15 from a dealership in Lansing Michigan where it spent its entire life. All original butternut paint with what I consider to be no rust. It is a two owner car. The second owner (the first owner’s son) purchased in July ’69. I have attempted to decode the cowl tag and believe the car is an original RS/SS, 350, four speed, bench seat car. The odometer reads 11,334. I have had no contact with the original or second owner to confirm this as actual but all wear items and other clues lead me to believe this to be correct. The engine and transmission is MIA along with most under hood bolt on items as are the complete wiper assembly, all of the heating assembly, radio etc. The car was a drag car but to what extent, I have no idea. As far as being turned into a race car, the PO cut very little. There is a large hole in the hood that was once covered by what looks to have been a stinger style hood scoop, the shifter hole in the tunnel was made larger and there are holes drilled through the floor where a single hoop roll bar was mounted. The only other alterations that I have found would be the ladder bars, fuel pump in the trunk, rear spoiler, tow bar mounts welded to the sub frame and remnants of the car’s name painted down both sides of the car.
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 04:28 PM
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Looks good reminds me of Grumpy's old car
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 04:42 PM
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Any pics of the tag and vin?
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 05:33 PM
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What info comes from the vin tag?
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 07:18 PM
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Well if the trim tag is real its an SS, Vin # will confirm v8 or not, 2 L is 4 speed. 3L is rally sport. 767 h is strato bench without head rests. Y Y is butternut yellow
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 07:20 PM
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E =interior color black
02E = February, 05 th week (not sure one gets a 5th Week)?
ST = year 67 12637 = Custom interior
Nor = Built Norwood Plant
TR 767-H= Black Custom Bench seat Y-Y=Butternut Yellow
2L = 4 speed manual 3L= Ralley Sport Equipment
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Old Feb 20th, 14, 07:53 PM
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As far as what it might be worth? There where 34,400 ss350 cars built. Automatics cost more but many prefer to have the manual in these cars today.

The bench seat is rare and a novelty but other than that nothing really special about the car.

You have a roller with mild surface rust ,no engine and trans , needs interior unable to see engine bay and its condition. Under carriage needs work. There is still a great deal of money needed to go into this car if restoring?

I would say in its present condition $7000.00-$9000.
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 05:17 AM
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A no engine, no tranny, roller ex-race car with gutted interior and chassis modifications.

I'd say $5K tops. It's a bare car (except for the 3L and 4P) that's been stripped (see missing rear arm rests and pulled steering box). Nothing says whoa like 4 wheel drum brakes.

The soul of an SS is the engine/tranny and yours is MIA. Hope your RS equipment works.
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 06:15 AM
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Any reason this is not a L30/M20 car?
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 06:20 AM
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Cool. I think this is the first bench seat 4 speed I have seen.
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 07:08 AM
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Vin ?
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 07:25 AM
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I also need to consider insuring it as it sits.
Rot free, original panels and paint. The sheetmetal mods are minimal. You stated in your other thread you have the rest of the interior. Original 12 bolt? Insure it for 10K minimum. Forget about what people tell you they would pay for it. You could insure a new POS Dynacorn body for the 12K they cost. How much do you think a shop would charge you to take a rusted carcass, locate all NOS and/or damage free assembly line sheetmetal and build it? That car can be made a driver in no time. I'd only run a buffer over it.
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 08:15 AM
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only original once....I'd find a scoop that would fit over the hole, buff it out and leave it as is. That's a cool car
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Old Feb 21st, 14, 08:45 AM
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I guess you have your answer on price as it must be worth what you paid for it! What price was that? Mahunt's price estimate is probably more realistic but i am still amazed what some people pay for rolling chassis that have no paint and poorly patched to boot.

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Old Feb 21st, 14, 09:23 AM
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I guess I'm seeing something that others are not. $5000? I'll take two, please! That is a neat find, and it has an interesting combination of options that make it unique. I would try to get in contact with the previous owners to see if they have any additional pictures / history of the car. You never know, someone might just have the grenaded engine / tranny under their workbench in fixable condition, or it might be sitting in someone's street rod. Don't forget to go over to the "orphan's" forum on the Camaro Research Group website to make sure someone doesn't have the engine / tranny listed over there. We have had a few cars reunited with their original motors through that forum. With the unusual options on this car, those guys would probably like to catalog this one anyway.

You would be surprised how well that old acrylic lacquer can be brought back by someone who knows what they are doing with a buffer. Too bad someone hacked that big hole in the hood and added the spoiler, or you could go back with 100% original paint and do this one as a survivor. As it sits, it would make a great "Day Two Survivor" and be a lot of fun to take to cruises and local shows. I would consider finding an original or reproduction "Grump Hump" type hood scoop to bolt on that hood, drop a big cammed small block in it, add some good wheels and tires, and hit the nostalgia drags. Also, keep in mind that there are still painters out there who are good at working with the old acrylic lacquer paint. You might be able to locate a good original SS hood and non-spoiler 67 deck lid and have someone get a passable color match to the original paint. There is a guy local to me who has done some amazing things with blending original paint on old Camaros.

Those seats look like someone pulled them out and stored them in a bedroom somewhere - they look to be in perfect condition.

Good luck with it, and great find!
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