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hello all, haven't been around much in this forum lately, nor has my camaro been receiving much attention. Anyway, the current TH350 in it I think is on its last legs. The owner previous was very hard on this tranny and I'm lookin to upgrade to a new, stronger one. The original 327 in it now (only the bottom end is orig.) had a recent top end upgrade which I think contributed to the already worn tranny going out quicker.
I would like to know what is a good tranny to go to, considering in the future this car may see a fresh 355 or 350 in it? A Th-400? Which exact one? The rear end in my car is stock 10 bolt but will see eaton posi at some point. thanks anyone for suggestions.... ------------------ 67 Coupe 327 LF7 - Trim tag revealed that it was one of the first 1,000 Camaros off Van Nuys in 67 after I bought it! Edelbrock performer package, ported 305 heads w/ 1.94/1.5 valves, screw in studs, summit 1.5 roller rockers, TH350, 10 bolt Pertronix ignition, Hotchkis suspension & sway bar, KYB's, Dynomax headers and exhaust, K&N, Cowl hood |
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why stick with an auto? a stick is soooo much more fun. T56 from a newer Camaro or Trans Am with double overdrive for fuel economy seems to be the trick swap these days. and these teannies are supposedly damn near bulletproff.
------------------ 1971 Nova(looks like 69 camaro from underneath!) 355sb, vortec heads, HOT cam,T-10 tranny, 3.70 gears 16X8" IROC wheels. 12" Corvette brakes on the way. see pics here http://community.webshots.com/user/novaderrik |
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If you really really really want to stick with an automatic, I'm pretty confident that a TH350 will suit you just fine with a 350 or 355. A TH400 will do fine as well, but probably not necessary and would cost quite a bit more (from what I've read) and if I'm not mistaking, weighs a bit more and consumes more HP than a TH350. I personally agree with novaderrik and would go with a manual tranny, but everyone's different and has different uses for their car....
[This message has been edited by 1FASTZ (edited 12-22-2002).] [This message has been edited by 1FASTZ (edited 12-22-2002).] [This message has been edited by 1FASTZ (edited 12-22-2002).] |
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A TH350 should hold up just fine. Hold on to your old one if you can - TH350 cores are getting hard to find. The junkyards sold them off years ago around here and the tranny rebuilders scarfed them all up.
You could also drop in a 200-4R OD trans too. They are a pretty straight forward swap when replacing a TH350 (there are a few changes - but size-wise they are very similar). Bruce (screen name WE4 here at Camaros.net) at Performance Transmissions is probably the best 200-4R builder around and he is right there in California. He can also do a good TH350 for a very reasonable price. |
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Thanks for the suggestions guys. Is the 200r4 good with around 375 HP or so for when I put a new motor in? Also, if I did decide to go manual, which is a good way to go? that T56?
thanks ------------------ 67 Coupe 327 LF7 - Trim tag revealed that it was one of the first 1,000 Camaros off Van Nuys in 67 after I bought it! Edelbrock performer package, ported 305 heads w/ 1.94/1.5 valves, screw in studs, summit 1.5 roller rockers, TH350, 10 bolt Pertronix ignition, Hotchkis suspension & sway bar, KYB's, Dynomax headers and exhaust, K&N, Cowl hood |
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You can get the 200 tranny to handle upwards to 600/800hp if you have the money.
Check out WE4 here, (Bruce), as well as the original Art Carr, not the company now using his name... I bet either can fix you up with a VERY good 200 tranny... pdq67 |
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Go with the T-56 and get away from the slush boxes. I beat the snot out of the 6 Speed in the 93 Z. It has 95,000 miles on it and the tranny shows no sign of wear. I think that they are darn near bulletproof. If you insist on sticking with an auto, go with a 700r4.
------------------ 69 SS, 350, 4 Speed 75 400, 4 Speed 93 Z28, 6 Speed |
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Thanks for being so helpful guys. Just one last thing. Where might I expect to buy a T-56 from and how much might I expect to spend if I had someone do the auto to manual T-56 swap?
That guy you speak of sounds like a great referral. I'll see where he is in CA. ------------------ 67 Coupe 327 LF7 - Trim tag revealed that it was one of the first 1,000 Camaros off Van Nuys in 67 after I bought it! Edelbrock performer package, ported 305 heads w/ 1.94/1.5 valves, screw in studs, summit 1.5 roller rockers, TH350, 10 bolt Pertronix ignition, Hotchkis suspension & sway bar, KYB's, Dynomax headers and exhaust, K&N, Cowl hood |
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Hey Leftcoast,
How's it going? I've been gathering up the parts for my PG to TH350 swap, so I'm pretty much committed to a TH350 now. However, if I were going to put in any other automatic tranny besides the TH350, I think I would go with the 200R4 because: 1. It's an overdrive tranny with good gear ratios. 2. It's a direct bolt in from a TH350 (you only have to get a TH400 crossmember). 3. It is a reasonably tough tranny that can handle a lot of HP as PDQ67 said. If I were going to a manual, I would want at least a 5 speed or the T56 six speed. (Don't know how much surgury is required to install one). Good luck & let us know what you decide. Regards, Mark P. ------------------ 69 Camaro Coup-My Granny bought new in 1969! Cortez Silver/drk blue interior 327/210hp Dual exhaust with Turbo Muffs Now with Pertronix Electronic ignition! Powerglide trans. Ugly & skinny tires! ------------------------- Search TV Christian Ministry: www.searchtv.org [This message has been edited by Granny's 69 (edited 12-26-2002).] |
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Like Grannys69 said the 200-4R is an easier fit. Keep in mind that the 200-4R has been raced by the Buick GN crowd for years and they have all the bugs worked out of building them.
Last time I saw a major discussion on building the 700-R4 there was a prob with the 3-4 clutches and line pressure that is inherent to the design of the tranny - in other words, no one has figured how to fix it yet so it will handle any serious HP. Although I will admit that a 700-R4 in stock form is probably strong enough to handle your current engine combo. Either tranny should work fine. |
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Hello granny,
I haven't been around this forum for a while. Good to hear from you. I'm really torn on what to do. I can't get a good idea how much I would expect to spend on the labor for the install of the 200-r4 versus going manual to a T-56. I do bolt on stuff, electrical, and maintenance but I'm not going to touch a tranny swap unless with someone that has experience. Granny, would you be interested in anything on my TH350 that is in there currently? I don't know what I'll do with it, nor do I know how wasted it is. ------------------ 67 Coupe 327 LF7 - Trim tag revealed that it was one of the first 1,000 Camaros off Van Nuys in 67 after I bought it! Edelbrock performer package, ported 305 heads w/ 1.94/1.5 valves, screw in studs, summit 1.5 roller rockers, TH350, 10 bolt Pertronix ignition, Hotchkis suspension & sway bar, KYB's, Dynomax headers and exhaust, K&N, Cowl hood |
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Leftcoast,
Sorry to hear that your TH350 is toast. I'm in the same boat with my old sickly Powerglide. I've got a TH350 tranny that I will have re-built or use as an exchange core. Still trying to get quotes from local trans. builders before I shell out my money. Otherwise, I've gathered up almost everything I need for the PG to TH350 swap except for a good Shift kit and a drainable TH350 tranny pan. The only thing I'm not sure about is how the kickdown cable setup is going to work with my current 2bbl. carb. I won a k-down cable & bracket on e-bay,but the bracket looks like it is for a 4bbl. setup (Which I plan to install in the future). So have you decided what tranny to go with yet? If you are going to pull your TH350, I would be interested in a couple of items. Let me know what you decide. BTW, other than your tranny problem, how is your 327 running since upgrade? Regards, Mark P. ------------------ 69 Camaro Coup-My Granny bought new in 1969! Cortez Silver/drk blue interior 327/210hp Dual exhaust with Turbo Muffs Now with Pertronix Electronic ignition! Powerglide trans. Ugly & skinny tires! ------------------------- Search TV Christian Ministry: www.searchtv.org |
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