[Tom Weaver]

Is there a paint out on the market that replicates the Black Oxide color that most of the hardware was coated with from the factory? And if so, will it hold up to high heat? Where do I get this stuff from? Thanks in advance...

[dnult]

Check out http://www.eastwoodco.com. They are probably exactly what you are looking for and they'll send you a new catalog every 2 weeks.

But they have some excellent stuff for things like what you are doing. It isn't necessarily factory correct stuff if your into that. But it is darn close and better in most cases. They have paints, sealers, electro-plating stuff, powdercoat stuff...

[BillK]

Tom,
If you can find it, Mar-Hyde's black satin trim paint is pretty close, and the stuff is bullet proof. PepBoys used to have it.

[Gary L]

I have done black zinc plating on some original bolts. Looks close, just a little shinier.

Gary

[Tom Weaver]

Thanks for the info. I'll try and call Pep Boys in the morning being they are close. If not I'll try Eastwood. I was about to use the High temp flat Black, but got to thinking that would look kinda dark.

[DjD]

Tom if you are using orig bolts try dropping them into a glass with some CLR in it over night.

[Unreal]

Those bolts are probably manganese phosphate. You can re-phosphate bolts and small parts using chemicals from Palmetto enterprises. I can get you the number, if you are interested.

[bbd564]

Has anyone used any commercial platers where you can send hardware to have it chemically cleaned and then replated, whether it is phosphate, zinc or whatever? I am really not into some of these home brews? Speaking of home brews, are the very expensive paints that Rick's sells worth the high price? Thanks

[DjD]

What I suggested is more of a very intense cleaning with acids provided in a household cleaning solution. Where did the factory plating go on some of these bolts anyway? In many cases it's there and just covered in dirt and grime simple green won't remove. [img]graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[68RSZEE]

I tried the home black oxide kit and I was very happy the first couple of days. Within a week the bolts had started rusting and I hadn't even gotting them wet! Funny thing is that you couldn't hardly scratch through the balck oxide to get to the parent metal but they still rusted up. I bead blasted them before the coating process too.

[ragtopman]

For you do it yourselfers, gun blueing will make them black again, but they need to be coated with something to keep them from rusting up again.

For the guys like me that might go the re-plate route, I sent a bunch of hardware to 'Steve Gregori' in Calif. Had bolts done in black zinc, hood hinges, springs, hood latch suppt. done in gray phosphate, and some silver zinc stuff done.
Looks very nice [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[Gary L]

bbd564:
I used the same plater that Steve Gregori uses. $50 flat fee for 125 lbs, right here in town. He only does zinc oxide, gold and black zinc. No phosphates or cadmium.

[CamarosRus]

I just want to speak up about the MANGANESE PHOSPHATE. I have done my home work and this is the RIGHT PROCESS. This is relatively easy and NOT expensive.....YOU may call it a home brew if you must, but its the same as a PROFESSIONAL would charge you big bucks to do.....I use a Colman Propane Camp Stove and a used Stainless Pot. Bought my MANGANESE and ZINC Phosphating Chemicals from PALMETTO ENT. out of Greenville, S.C. ph# 864-246-3836. Big City Chemical Distributors will also have same products, in larger quantities (for less money per qt or gal)
Anybody interested in MORE details on this, Email me and I'll send back my additional comments.....Chuck Sharin Seattle

[Gary L]

You are pretty much right on CamarosRus. When I had my zinc phosphate done at plating shop they had a propane burner under a pot to do the zinc phosphate. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Gary

[Unreal]

I used the kitchen stove, while my wife was out. She came back early and caught me stirring some bolts. She took one look and said, You know you're a redneck when you cook bolts on the kitchen stove" and went upstairs.