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Old Aug 14th, 05, 04:44 PM
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Default High Torque starter for 396

I am on my 5th Pepboys starter, and they only last about 3-6 months. I tried getting a high torque starter before from summit, but it didnt mount onto my block or bellhousing.

Anyone know a particular starter that will work? I am using a stock bellhousing, so nothing out of the ordinary. I need something that can crank this beast over...and price isn't a concern any more!

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old Aug 14th, 05, 05:56 PM
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Sure, I tell a high torque starter b/c it will have a copper tube spacer that is about 3/4" to 1" long between the field coil pigtail and the back of the solenoid.

Then just make sure the starter's nose style fits your flywheel/flex plate size and bellhousing hole. Staggered or straight across mounting bolts is all...

The one I put on my 406 SB is actually for a hi-po 427 and 454 big f/w application!

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Old Aug 14th, 05, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: High Torque starter for 396

I ran this starter on my 396 for a few years and it worked great.

Now it is on a small block and is still going.

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...45&prmenbr=361

http://www.tciauto.com/starters.htm
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Old Aug 15th, 05, 04:11 AM
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I have always used the factory brace from the "nose" of the starter to the engine block and never had a problem with factory starters. GM installed it for good reason. In addition, make sure you use the correct knurled bolts and shim the starter correctly. A paperclip between the bendix and the ring gear will get you in the ballpark. Afermarket high torque starters work OK but there has been millions of Chevy engines started without them.
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Old Aug 15th, 05, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: High Torque starter for 396

I would go with PDQ's suggestion. I've built my own starters in the past for a "hard to crank" engine, a 12:1 406.

First off, the auto parts rebuilt starters are completely "JUNK" filled with el-cheapo made overseas parts.

To build a "GOOD" Delco starter, you need:

A Cast Iron starter nose with the correct bolt pattern for your engine. Look at trucks in the junkyard.

A "heavy Duty" starter motor. As pdq noted, these motors are about 3/4" longer than that "standard torque" starter. You can spot them by the brass spacer installed between the large lower connection on the solenoid and the brass strap coming out of the top front of the starter.

And, the following new starter parts, genuine Delco only, purchased from your local dealer:

Solenoid, Bendix drive, Brush kit, Starter bolts. Also be sure to use the front strap. These are available from polaces like Rick's, and may be available from the dealer as well.
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Old Aug 15th, 05, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: High Torque starter for 396

I had a starter in my car that died (had a dead spot on it, if you got under car and hit it with a hammer it would catch sometimes.....). I since have put this one below and it works fine. I have a mild 396 in the car. Starter installed real nice and was of a good quality.

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
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Old Aug 15th, 05, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: High Torque starter for 396

late model big block trucks have a pretty heavy duty- but lightweight- starter in them.
head to the dealer and get a starter for a 99 3/4 ton 4X4 with a 454 in it. also get the front brace for it, as well (if they still use them) and bolts. you will need a slightly bigger ring terminal on the solenoid wire, but that's no big deal. and other than that, it's a direct bolt in.
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Old Aug 15th, 05, 06:11 PM
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The fattest battery cables you can find (the wire, not the insulation), and the biggest battery you can physically fit in the batt box will help as well.
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Old Aug 17th, 05, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: High Torque starter for 396

Thanks guys for the info...

I dont think I am up for building a starter, again money isnt a concern and just need something to bolt in really quick.


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I had a starter in my car that died (had a dead spot on it, if you got under car and hit it with a hammer it would catch sometimes.....). I since have put this one below and it works fine. I have a mild 396 in the car. Starter installed real nice and was of a good quality.

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
This just brings me to a page of starters...what was the starter called and some of the specs?
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Old Aug 18th, 05, 10:34 AM
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Sorry,
Should have checked to see if link worked.. The summit part number is SUM-G1660A
Product Line: Summit Mini High-Torque Starters
Maximum Recommended Compression Ratio: 11.0:1
Gear Reduction Ratio: 3.73:1

It can be used with the 153 or 168 flywheel. Mine bolted right up and no issue with adjusting the clearance ( I didn't have to shim it or anything) I have had it for 2 months and I have been using my 68 as my everyday car and no issues with it yet, starts her right up. I am not sure my compression ration but they say max is 11.0:1. Summit sells them for 157.95. If you search for the part number is comes right up. Bellhousing on my car looks to be stock but I can't really tell, no telling what the guy before me did to this car.... Hope that helps.

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Old Aug 18th, 05, 11:52 AM
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i have a Hitachi mini starter and it works great cranking my 11.8:1 468. I had one of the CVR starters and it worked great to, just wouldn't fit with my new super comps. They take up a trmendous amount of room.
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Old Aug 18th, 05, 09:20 PM
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