[Gignem]

I recently purchased a '67 from a guy that has owned the car for the past 6 years and has done extensive work to the car but never finished. What I ended up with is a shell that is solid all the way around. Fenders, hood, valance, header panel, trunk lid, and rear quarters have all been replaced. The car has been shot with primer, but there is still some work to be done on the seems where the rear quarters were installed. It appears that the guy used a body panel epoxy/adhesive on the seams (where the quarter meets the roof sail panel and where the quarter meets the rear panels). I would like to smooth out the seams and add some filler to smooth out these panels. I am looking for help on what the best process for doing this is. I am a virgin when it comes to body work, but would like to do as much as possible on my own. Also, are there any good resources (manual or video) that would help?

[67ptcamaro]

If you can add some picks we would help you as much as we can.
Did the guy left the led filler on the sails where it meets the roof?
Some picks would be very good to tell you what to do.

[Gignem]

I'll take some pics when I get off of work tomorrow. It appears that the seam is below where the original panel met the roof. Thanks for the help.

[paintdaddy]

I have used that adhesive for panel replacement also.One you have got to do is try to remove as much of it from the face of the metal.You need to wipe kitty hair over it ,sand it somewhat smooth and then start doing body work with fillers and glazes.That adhesive on the 1/4 is not supposed to have any fillers put over them but there is almost no way to use them with out using fillers over them.So like I said just remove as much as you can until it is hardly visible.

[Gignem]

Ok, here are some pics. As you can see, the body is in primer, but the quarter seams were never smoothed out. According to the previous owner he used a ppg primer like that used in body shops, but I don't know if I'll need to strip it back down or if I can work with it from here. The only filler that I can see is on the seems between the back windo and trunk. I can see some cracks in the primer on one side and the filler appears to be real chalky when I scraped into it. Being a rookie to this, I don't know what approach I should take.

[Gignem]

Couple of other pics

[mxquattro]

Whoa. You have a lot of work ahead of you. Not insurmountable though so dont get discouraged. Personally I would take down the primer, it isnt meant to be exposed for very long so already its off to a bad start. Also the weld or seam seal doesnt seem complete, I see holes in it. I would find someone with a TIG and finish that seam, then start your bodywork. Cant wait to see the finished product!

[Gignem]

Do I have to use TIG? Is there anything else that would do the trick? Also, what is the best way to remove the primer?

[mxquattro]

no you dont HAVE to use a TIG. A TIG keeps the heat localized and wont warp the surrounding metal as much. As for getting rid of the primer, you can user your DA or maybe a chemical strip.

[67ptcamaro]

I would also suggest to take the primer down to sheet metal. 2k fill primers absorb moisture. Then do your welding and put 2 coats of epoxy followed by 2K fill primer and top coat it.

[Gignem]

Your saying take the whole car down to the bare metal? If I do so, should I use aircraft stripper? So once I've got it down to the bare metal, do my welding, apply my filler to the seems, put 2 coats of epoxy primer, then 2K fill primer, then it's ready for paint? At which points in this process do I block sand? Should I use a guide coat during this process to find any low or high spots? As you can tell, I'm not a body man but I am seriously contemplating giving this a try (after in depth research of course). If you have any tips or can point me in the direction of some good resources, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for the help...

[Gambitt]

For this project, you might want to start being a regular at:

http://autobodystore.com/forum/index.php

This is an excellent forum that only deals with auto paint work.
There are a lot of really experienced painters on there that are more than glad to help a newbie out. It has been invaluable to me in my restoration. There are a lot of good people on this board also, but autobodystore is totally dedicated to this, so it is a little more indepth.

Gambitt

[JimM]

This is a goob place to start
http://www.camaros.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=12

[RS3SDL2MG]

HEY THERE !! this look's like a great car in the making go at it !!
but I have a question not really for you but for everyone else ,
I see this all the time and I am scratching my head as to why ??
the way the 1/4's were put on this car , whoever did it went to the trouble of getting FULL 1/4's to go on the car , the original 1/4's have lead in the seam where they meet the roof and this NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BAD !!!!!!!
the lead is all but IMPOSSIBLE to get anything to stick to it , on this car and countless other's I have seen over the year's the guy that put the 1/4's on came down below the factory seam cut the new 1/4's off and left the leaded (TROUBLE AREA) alone then installed the 1/4's and welded the new seam , this make's TWO seperate weld seam's on the car the lead is still in the top seam ready to ruin antything that is sprayed onto it ???
my question is simply WHY?
WHY would you cut of a new set of 1/4's that you just paid good money for ? what is the reasoning for it ??
I just don't get it ?

[Gambitt]

I ask myself that same question all the time. I don't know why anyone would put a quarter on and not replace the whole thing...it is a much better way to do it.