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Old Jun 4th, 06, 02:20 PM
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Angry 67 RS hideaway headlights problems

Hi,

I can't solve the problems I'm having with te RS wiring. I have the electrical overview of the wiring, but I can't crack the problem. I checked the relays according to the manual. Both motors were taken out and are working now (some binding), the limit switches are all working, the orange, light blue and brown are energized. I have 12 v (when lights on) at the motors, but they don't move. I have 12v at the relays when I want to close the lights, but not at the motors?
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Old Jun 4th, 06, 05:28 PM
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Is the key in the ON position? The doors won't operate with the key in the OFF position.
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Old Jun 4th, 06, 05:38 PM
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Are the limit switches being pressed in ? I had one that wasn't & need to be adjusted. As CFunK said - key has to be in "ON" position for motors to close doors
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Old Jun 4th, 06, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: 67 RS hideaway headlights problems

Yes, the ignition is in the ON position (12V brown diode wire) and the limit switches are working properly.
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Old Jun 5th, 06, 03:39 AM
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Did they ever work?
What has been done since they worked?


If as you say you have 12 v at the motors (working and not over tightened) you might have limit switches switched (wrong side of the motors) or you are not getting grounds on the switches.
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Old Jun 5th, 06, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: 67 RS hideaway headlights problems

I haven't driven the car for a while, they worked great before. I didn't change anything on the setup.
I checked the wiring on the switches top/down, they ground when depressed

When ignition in ON position (brown wire), light switch in OFF position I get a few volts on Relay 2 and 3 on the light blue wire. Is that normal?
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Old Jun 5th, 06, 10:37 AM
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Replace the Diode, it sounds like current is flowing the wrong way back to the relay #2 and #3. Also check all the ground wires on the limit switches to the radiator support.
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Old Jun 5th, 06, 12:11 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying Camaro Dave since the brown wire has the diode, the wire is coming from the ignition. The light blue wire coming from light switch gets now (in the OFF position) current from relay 2 and 3
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Old Jun 5th, 06, 10:48 PM
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Willem replace Relay #2 and see if that solves the problem.......It's either the relay or an open with the diode. You might have to try a few things to narrow down the problem.
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Old Jun 6th, 06, 10:07 AM
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I've replaced relay 1, 2 and 3 with no positive result. I'll hook up the motors and tinker around a bit.
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Old Jun 7th, 06, 01:02 PM
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Problem solved!!!
Cleaned up all the terminals motors/limit switches/relays/wiring with contact spray. Opened up one of the motors which was stuck again. The axle coming out of the motor was rusted and got stuck in the bronze sleeve.
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Glad you found the problem, best schooling is learning it as you do it
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