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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 19th, 01, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
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Have a '69 Z28 X77. The Hurst that's in it has a rectangular shifter. The replacement boot that I got has a circular hole. Read somewhere that the Hurst shifters in Camaro (stock) are round. That would explain the round hole in the boot. Just what is the shape of the stock Hurst shifter? As an added thought, the shifter hits the console in 4th gear. Thought that might just be an adjustment problem but now not sure that the shifter (retangular) isn't stock. Any answers?
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 20th, 01, 04:25 AM
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Your suspicions are correct. The flat handle shifter is after-market. The OE Hurst shifter is round. Check with D&R or Ricks First Generations. They usually have a used one for sale... Beware of Ebay. I see "factory hurst" shifters listed all the time with the incorrect flat handles... Let me know if you need phone numbers and Good Luck!!

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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 01, 08:24 AM Thread Starter
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X77D80: did your trim tag have the "D80" option listed?
Trying to figure if my X77 (which has the spoiler) was original. my trim tag doesn't list the "D80" option. Read somewhere not every tag has this listed. Curious
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 01, 09:12 AM
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Since we are talking shifters could you tell me if the ****er is off-set for the console or is it just the handle and how much is the off-set?
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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 01, 11:17 AM
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AJ, My trim tag does list the D80 next to the X77. However, my car is very late (11A 1969). As I understand it early or mid production cars did not always receive the D80 code on the trim tag. You could look under the sub-frame for the tapped hole for the front spoiler mounting bracket.

rawls, the shifter has the offset, not the handle. Imagine the shifter bolted to the tailhousing. The piece that holds the handle comes up and over to the center of the tail housing. The handle is then pressed into that. The handle itself is round and curves up and over towards the driver. Not sure if I made sense there, but if not, I'm sure someone will clarify.

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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 21st, 01, 12:38 PM
 
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I just bought my '69, and it had a Hurst quarter stick on it. Every time I shifted, I was leaning forward!
I went to my local speed shop, and they supplied me with the original shifter from Hurst. It comes up 10", back 5", and 2" towards me. Much better, and it looks great!
It's rectangular, and so is the hole in the boot. Haven't seen a round one??
Just thought I'd put in my 2 cents.
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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 01, 12:25 PM
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AJ, I have the original round handle,shifter,etc.I had my shifter rebuilt by Hurst/Mr gasket and mine hits the counsole plate in 4th gear if I shift anything more than easy.
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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 01, 05:02 PM
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If your oem shifter hits the tunnel, loosen the bolt on the mounting bracket with the elongated nut and piviot it until it clears both the top and bottom of tunnel. then readjust the linkage and go do some power shifting

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 01, 06:47 PM
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I went out to the garage and checked my shifter since I couldn't remember whether it was round or rectangular. The shaft coming up through the boot is indeed round tapering smaller up to the shift handle. In the center of the shaft the sides are flat to contain the Hurst name. The shift knob is a round chrome ball.
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 01, 09:39 PM
 
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The stick 69 Camaro Muncie 4 speed shifter is a round handle "Hurst" but it is not a great shift mechanisim below. The handle slides into the shifter box and is retained by a spring clip. The handle is a major bear to remove on high mileage cars! I reccomend that you source a factory handle BUT! that you use a real Hurst Competition Plus shift mechanisim. The OEM shifter also says "Competition Plus" but it is is of a lessor grade than the aftermarket version. The factory shift handle will need to be match drilled to the aftermarket shifter box. The big advantage to the aftermarket shifter box is that there are stop bolts in the box to allow setting the shifter for performance high speed shifting without over throwing the shift arms wich can cause the brass/bronze (bronze are the prefered)synchromesh blocker rings to crack inside the Muncie 4 speed. The after market Competition Plus series Hurst shifter has the same offset as the factory shifter to allow it to fit a factory console. The shift ball should be an ugly black thing but I prefer the chrome ball myself.
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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old Jan 24th, 01, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info Real. Checked my shifter and it has the stops so it must be after-market.
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