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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 01, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
 
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How can you tell the difference between a real first generation camaro (preferably 68') rallysport and a clone rallysport?
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 01, 02:41 PM
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If it is done right it will be indetectable.

A couple of places to look are:

The factory placed the hole for the head lamp switch hoses above the fuse box. This can be a bother to duplicate.

The holes for the back-up lamps may also be mis-positioned.
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It is viryually impossible to tell the clone if it is done right.

But as I have done mine (A 67 R/S Clone, I tell people up front that it is a clone and I have left all og the emblems off of the car except the gas cap. That is the only thisg that says R/S on the whole car)

You can look under the rear valance and see if the back-up lights wire harness has been extended to reach from the trunk to below the bumper, and check the firewall as William has said.
Also look for all of the R/S trim pieces by studying pictures of true R/S's and then see if they are on the car you are looking at (you could not by an R/S just for the hideaway headlights and not get all of the embelems and trim).

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What about the headlight switch? Doesn't the RS have vacuum connections where non-RS cars don't?
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The switch would most likely be left behind if the car were an RS that had the lights removed (converted to non-RS). In a non-RS being converted to RS the switch would be needed...

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Yes, that is true about the headlight switch but that can also easily be changed.
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I was told the springs on the hood hinges are different on an RS

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The hood springs are dependent on the hood weight. The SS hood takes stiffer springs than the standard/cowl induction. However, I have't weighed them. When I converted from a SS hood to a cowl, I changed springs. As already said, it an RS conversion is done properly, there will be no difference. I guess you could examine some components to get an idea on age. My car is an RS and the vacuum canster brackets were prehistoric.
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If the front fender buckets where the headlights attach have a conversion bracket bolted to the fender and not welded. These bracets are sold to convert non RS fenders to RS fenders. There is a differance in the fenders and this is where it is at. A person could have an original RS and converted fenders to use on there car so this is not a sure fire way to tell but, it will give you a hint that something has been changed.

Also the hole in the firewall will have a grommet where the headlight vacume lines pass through on 68's. The rear extension harness for the back up lights should have grommets going to the underside of the car. You could also pull off a back up light and look to see how it's cut out. If the rear tail panel has never been replaced there should be a grommet for the back up light harness in the inner metal area and the cutout will look like a factory cut and not something done with a hacksaw.

I am not saying you will find all this on your car or cars but these are just some of the things I noticed when I had my 68 RS/SS 375H/P 4 SPD car about 8 years ago. Maching numbers,protecto plate and buildsheet.

This car was stolen and then parted out. A-hole thieves.

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