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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 00, 11:05 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone know where I can find a cheap set of 194 heads for a 350 chevy? I took mine in this morning and both of them are cracked in 3 different places!!! Salvage yards want $150 each! I ought to be able to find some a little cheaper I hope. Thanks for any help

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 00, 11:52 AM
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I've got a set of # 624's minus springs and retainers for $100. Also have a new set of Z springs for $40, and can round up some retainers. They have 1.94/1.5 valves, and are the light casting heads with 76cc chambers. I had them on a '78 Z, and wiped out the cam. The car had @ 82,000 miles on it. They would need a valve job. Where in La. are you? I'm in North Ga. Email if interested. They have been sitting for 11-12 yrs., since '88.

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I just sold a set of 64cc's for $75. I called the salvage yard and was told the had them for $50 each and decided to give a club member a break....

Have you looked into having your welded?

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post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 00, 05:37 PM
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I would buy some Dart S/R's, I think you can get them for around $500 complete and ready to bolt on. These are new, have hardened valve seats, flow better than stock heads, have a choice of valve sizes and combustion chamber sizes. My guess is that it would cost less to buy these than to replace your heads and have a valve job done.

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Steve is right. The $500 is SOOOOOOOO much better spent on the Torquers than buying used stock heads or rebuilding them. $500 gets you brand spanking new heads that are light years ahead of stock castings. In the end, it would cost you that much to "refresh" a set of crappy stock heads.

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Thanks for the replies everyone. I am still debating on what to buy. If the budget wasn't so tight right now, I would no doubt spring for a set of brand new vortec heads. After hitting the pavement on my motorcycle at 90 mph 2 months ago, I still got quite a few hospital bills left to pay. Anyway, the cheapest deal I have found around here is a set of rebuilt 882's with 194 valves for $300 exchange, ready to bolt on. This is from a machine shop. And they said they would take my cracked ones is as a core! Is this a good deal or not? Thanks for your opinions. Btw, how do I find out what heads mine are? There are no numbers on the front of the heads anywhere.

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The #'s are under the valve covers, cast into the heads. Look between the springs.
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post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 00, 11:13 AM Thread Starter
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New Update! Just picked up my old heads from the machine shop and now he tells me they are 305 4-barrel heads with 184(?) valves and 63cc. He said it is the same head he runs on a dirt track car. The number between the valve springs is 864434. Does anyone recognize those? On the other end of the head is GM21T. The machinist recommended putting 194 heads back on it. But it ran fine with the heads that were on it, so I don't know what to look for now, 194 or 305 heads. Motor is totally stock. HEI ignition and edelbrock 600 carb. Stock exhaust manifolds, intake, cam, etc. Has a turbo 350 auto. Plan on bumping horsepower up in the future, just can't afford to right now. What do yall suggest?
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I'm not for sure but if you have parts store around that sells Marshall Engines check with them and find out what they know about the price for a set of SB performance heads. I would be interested to see what they go for. Don't know if I should say this but I cut the seats in them. They have a 2.02 int and 1.6 ex. With a little smoothing they should be a good running set of heads. I plan on putting a set on the 68 327 I'm building. I should add that we sweep out the port to blend them so you can run them as is, but who can resist a little grinder time???
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Another option.....found a set of 305 heads reworked wrapped in plastic ready to bolt on from an individual for $100 with NO core charge. Ran across this after I called the machine shop and told them to start on a set of 882's with 194 valves. But they won't be ready until next week. Price for those are $99 each with a $35 core....so $270 for a set of reworked 882's vs $100 for a set of reworked 305 heads that I can put on tomorrow. If I just bolt on the 194's and don't change anything else, will I feel a power loss just by driving it? I know they will breathe more and give me more top end, but I really like the low end torque the 305 heads put out. But, if I'm still going to have detonation problems, then 194's all the way.
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HOPE YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT ANYTHING YET BACAUSE I AM BUYING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW. CALL SCOGGIN-DICKEY CHEVROLET IN TEXAS. THEIR PARTS DEPT. IS SELLING "BRAND NEW" 194X150 HEADS (#SD194) FOR $150 EA. FULLY ASSEMBLED WITH NEW PARTS. HOPE THIS HELPS
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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 00, 06:07 PM
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Just what are -194 heads off of anyway. I don't know heads past -461's and 2's and 441's etc.... What's the CC size and so forth? Just curious, Heck, I might learn something here. thanks. pdq67



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All 350 engines through at least mid eighties came with 194's or larger. All camel hump heads, whether on 350 or 327's came with either 1.94 or 2.02 intakes, and 1.5 or 1.6" exhaust. The only way to know for sure is to take off the head and measure valve size.

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post #14 of 22 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 00, 10:22 AM
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PDQ,

FROM MY EXPIRIENCE ALMOST ALL THE 194 VALVE SIZE HEADS HAVE A 76CC CHAMBER.
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Not 100% here, but I think casting #3947041 was a 64cc 1.94/1.50 iron head in '69 and '70 They came on the L48 350/300hp. They might have been 2.02/1.60s, not sure... Very good old iron head!!!

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