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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 07:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hey guys,

I need some quick feedback here on whether the Painless Universal Wiring Harness is any good. I ordered it and it's on the way and depending on what feedback I get here I may be sending it back, so please let me know as soon as possible.

1. Are they easy/hard to install?
2. Are they fairly complete or do you need to purchase a lot of other stuff?
3. Personal experiences/stories would also be helpful

Remember this is the Universal harness not the one specifically made for the Camaro


Thanks everybody and your help is defiently appreciated!

Steve
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 08:16 AM
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scalise I've heard both good and bad things about the Painless kit. Several people on this sight have used it with very little problems while others have called it a complete waste of their money. I guess it all depends on your knowledge of electrical systems. Do a search on this subject in the wiring section and you might be able to find more info on installation tips or potention problems. Good luck.
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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 08:30 AM
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ive never had a problem with them, they are easy to install. all of there wires are now labeled for ease of installation. the only thing u would need to do is keep all the connections from your existing harness to splice them into the painless one. they give you plenty of wire to run it however you want too. the only advice i can give you is take your time. i live 5 minutes from painless wiring and have toured their facility and they put a lot of pride in their product. i truly think you will enjoy your harness, but i cant say this enough: plan how your gonna run the wires and take your time!!!! hope this helps
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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 09:37 AM
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Great quality products, but the install instructions suck!!!! This may be the reason that some people have had truoble with these kits. However, their tech people are very helpfull if you have questions.

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for the info.So I pretty much just need to save the old connectors to accessories and lights and such to use with my new Painless wiring harness?


Is there somewhere to purchase these connectors in case I am missing some of them?

I don't think Painless would sell them. Would Ricks 1st gen?

I'm glad there is a resource like this available otherwise this project would be much more complicated!

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he kits do come with headlight connectors and the steering colum connections. So you shouldn't have to many problems. I rewired my 85 with one of their kits. It took me about three months to do it only because I only had about an hour a day to work on it. But it wans't very complicated. Instructions are kinda sucky though.

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 11:03 AM
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I've used five of their "Universal" harnesses to wire a street rod, three Cobras, and my tube-frame Grand Sport; worked fine, never had a problem. Instructions are understandably a little sketchy, as the harness is "universal", and they have no idea what you're going to use it in; you will have to "adapt" to some extent as you go along if you're re-wiring a Camaro with it.

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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 25th, 01, 06:20 PM
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I use painless to wire my car. Worked great.
I put it in 4 years ago and no problems. The only thing I had a problem with was the wiring of the ignition was mislabled. The color was wrong. Put I call for information at wireless and they straightened me out.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 26th, 01, 09:19 AM
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why don't you use the one made for your car?
i used the 69 kit and had no problems
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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 26th, 01, 06:27 PM
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I used the Painless 18 circuit kit for my '67.
I love having the modern type fuse panel/fuses. One thing: Keep the half moon steering column connector. You will be pushing Painless's wires (ends already set) into it.
I found the install to be very simple.
I like the way they integrate everything onto the fuse panel; horn relays, turn signal and hazard flashers, etc..

Also, I have found, in my setup, it's very nice to have separate wires for each connection.

One problem they had a year ago, and may still be in some kits in inventory for a while: The washer pump/wiper plug wires were reversed. A call to Painless got me a faxed page with the proper wire arrangement.


All in all I am very happy with the Painless kit in my car.

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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 01, 01:23 AM Thread Starter
 
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67LT1,

was that the Universal kit or the one for your model car?
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