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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 03:35 PM Thread Starter
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I currently have power steering but I want to switch to manual. I was wondering if I need to change the centerlink or drag link as well.
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 05:08 PM
 
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Why on earth would you want to change from power to manual? I've heard of alot of people going the other way, this is the first post I've seen going the other direction. What gives? Just wondering!
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post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 06:13 PM
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I've heard the PS center link is a bit heavier than the manual. But it may just be a big block option, and the outer steering arms are shorter giving a faster ratio, which should work with a manual setup fine.
You will need a smaller spline pitman arm.
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post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 06:15 PM
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keep the power steering! this was an option back then. center link, drag link is the same thing. pitman arms are different thats $80 + -, power steering box is $220 + -, steering coupling joints $75 + -, hoses $50 + -, pump $110 + -, brackets $40 + -, pulleys etc. P.S. the center link is the same. hope this helps.
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post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 06:49 PM Thread Starter
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The main reason for changing to manual is cosmetics. I seen a '68 that had a manual box and it looked soo much cleaner. I have not had the chance to drive a manual steer camaro but I used to drive my uncle's '56 F-150 that is manual. I am at a point where I dont have the parts to support power steering, no pump, brackets, pulley, hoses, etc. I just figured that a manual box swap would look cleaner and be a cheaper way to go. I am still going to keep my power steering box just in case I change my mind later on down the road.
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post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 00, 09:28 PM
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If you have a quick ratio power steering unit now and you change over to the standard box, you will be disappointed with the extra turn of the wheel. With a manual box, you might want to pad and put a leather steering wheel grip on, in order to give you a better grip and therefore leverage when trying to make tight turns.
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post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 18th, 00, 01:26 AM
 
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I think I remember seeing an aftermarket fast-ratio worm gear for a manual box in the current PAW catalog. I don't remember the specifics... something like a 15:1 ratio instead of the stock 12:1 ratio. If you do decide to go manual, this may be worth looking into.


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post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 18th, 00, 09:59 AM
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post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 19th, 00, 12:09 PM
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Hey! I like my manual steering. Glad I don't have PS and all the equipment, hp loss, leaking fluids, squeeling, and overboosted feel.

Manual is near impossible to turn when sitting still, but you learn to turn while moving. I prefer it.
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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 19th, 00, 03:59 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Ken67, my thoughts exactly!! I am glad to hear that someone out there is thinking along the same lines as myself. I have a stock steering wheel and plan to keep that big boy for this reason. Thank you all for your input and information, the manual unit will be going in soon.
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post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 20th, 00, 02:08 AM
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I have manual on my 69 . I've thought about going to power steering in the future but decided to put a rebuilt unit in instead. I got one from Year One for $199. As David said, you will need a different pitman arm. Having the shorter outer steering arms is a nice touch. I just found a set and am cleaning them up to give myself a bit quicker ratio. From my perspective, the Camaro is easier to steer than my 58 Impala was with manual steering!
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I got a manual from a 68 I'd be willing to swap.

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post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 20th, 00, 01:40 PM Thread Starter
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Winch, I have a manual box heading my way and I still plan on keeping my power unit, sorry. I might change back to power steering in about 40 yrs when my arms are too tired from pushing the walker around!!!
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post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 21st, 00, 10:06 AM
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Anything with power in front of it is just one more thing to go wrong. I love my manual everything.
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