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post #1 of 5 (permalink) Old Aug 4th, 00, 11:33 AM Thread Starter
 
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I purchased a 69 Z28 x33 camaro about 9 months ago. The car is straight and clean and has been kept quite well. How ever, it did not have the original DZ 302 motor in it. A 327 had somehow found it's home inside the frame rails. Well, I have recently come in to the possesion of a DZ 302 ( non-matching vin #s)with original crank, rods, pistons, and intake. The heads are unknown at this point but I understand that 69s came with double humps.
My question is, in your opinion, how much value can I expect to realize once this DZ motor is installed. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated.

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post #2 of 5 (permalink) Old Aug 4th, 00, 02:05 PM
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Hi racernum1,
Where is Streetman, TX? (Just wondering).
Well, here's my view of it, for what it's worth. You might see a coulpe grand in value with the 302. But, you will probably spend that much or more rebuilding it, to put in, so it's probably a "wash".
Also, you will still not have a numbers matching VIN motor in the car. It really all depends on what YOU want. If you want more origonality, go with the 302. If you don't care about that, and are more into performance, and non stock things, go with more cubes. They both "look" the same between the fenderwells.
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post #3 of 5 (permalink) Old Aug 6th, 00, 03:37 AM
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Just my $.02, but part of the first gen Z tradition and herritage is the mighty little high winding 302 mouse motor . So no matter what the increase in value or not if I had the opportunity to replace with a good DZ motor...I would not hesitate. Also IMO ...it will add resaleability if you ever decide to sell because of my first statement above.

Value???? 'Tis always in the eye of the beholder however, but to me, it would add enough value to make it worth doing.

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post #4 of 5 (permalink) Old Aug 7th, 00, 05:24 AM
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True, the numbers won't match but you will have the satisfaction of knowing a real 302 lives in your Z. Mine has a 302 in it but it was built from a 4" bore 010 block with a 302 crank. I have been looking for a DZ block too, but then I get that sinking feeling of "what if I grenade this rare motor". My point is you can easily build a 302 to get that Z feeling without jeapordising a real motor. BTW the 302 is not that fun to drive, It's lacking that kick in the *** torque. but it sounds cool on it's way to 7 grand.
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post #5 of 5 (permalink) Old Aug 7th, 00, 06:28 AM
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JacksZ28 makes alot of good points. If you are going to race the car, I would not put in the DZ motor. Missing second gear at 6-7000 RPM could destroy that DZ block. If you are a cruizer (like me) and just like to wind it out to 6 or 7000 once in a while just for kicks and not power shifting at this point then the 302 is the way to go. I have a 68Z with a 302 motor in it (probably a 69 replacement motor as the engine builder I talked to before I bought the car indicated it had 4 bolt mains). I have to be honest, I may not have even gone to look at the car to buy it , had it not had a 302 in it.

JacksZ28 is correct that it lacks the torque of the bigger cubed motors but the sound of that high winding solid lifter motor through headers and flowmaster mufflers never fails to get comments from the gallery. And after all, it is what set the Z/28 apart from any other first gen Camaro. Again... just my .02

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