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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 01, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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I saw a thread dating back to 2000 in the archives dealing with this topic, but there was no posted solution and the e-mail I sent the original author was never answered (bad address?).

Anyhow:

My '68 has an unusually large gap between the window fuzzy and the glass (maybe 1/2" to 3/4") which makes the glass appear to be placed too far inward toward the interior. I have removed the door panel and played with the adjusters but this makes very little difference.

The hardware attaching the glass to the track hits the guide plate (welded on the door skin and facing the glass) which forces the window too far inboard. The winding action is very difficult at this point and I must pull up on the window to roll it closed.

Is it advisable to bend this strike plate or is there another solution? I do not know if this door is original on the car or a junk yard treasure.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 01, 01:27 PM
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I have the same problem. I was planning on tearing the whole door apart to see what is wrong. I do not belive that the door panel is bent. I am thinking one of the adjustors is off. If I can fix mine I will let you know how I did it
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I'm afraid I dont have any real advice for you. I have played around with the adjusting points on my 68 convertible when I had a new top put on. I'm waiting for the fuzzies to get here so I can finish the job.

If your window has a mechanical of structural problem then youll probably have to replace it or 'Mc Gyver' the problem. Otherwise, There are about four adjustments that need to be done in a particular order. Camaro Restoration Handbook has the info. Maybe someone else here can recomend another.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 01, 07:38 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys! I am interested in how your work comes along...both my doors are already 1/2 apart.

I think I may try to compare the angles of the strike plates and various parts of the 2 doors before I do any bending.

Does anyone else have a solution?

If I find something that works I'll be sure to post it here.




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Is the striker part attached to the window a convex plastic disk? I've seen these in different thicknesses. Mine is approx. 1/8" thick and works fine.
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Yes! There is a convex plastic disk on the glass. The rear disk appears thicker than the front one too. I do not know if the opposite (passenger) door glass is the same configuration or not.

Wonder if I should try swapping them around? Maybe I should try shaving some off of it too.

Just got my new windowfelts (after returning a mangled set via ups delivery) so I will be assembling and adjusting the glass soon.

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It takes practice and I have been told to take mine to a glass guy with the door panel already off. It will take a good pro just a few minutes to have it dialed in!! I'm almost to that point on my driver door window. I replaced the regulator and haven't got it right yet!!

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Well'I've spent hours and hours on my glass.I finally got my pass.side almost perfect.I loosened all the adjustment points,then had my wife ,with the window up,adjust with her hands,the outside of the window,till it fit pretty good.I then tightened all the adjusters.We then did some fine adjustments,and it kinda fell right in.Maybe we got lucky?I don't understand what a "guide plate" is. I talked to a assembly line worker,that is how he said they did it at the factory,1 guy inside and 1 outside.

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I guess I should be calling the "guide plate" a "strike plate" or "strike ramp." The plate is on the inside top portion of the door skin and is about 3 inches long by 2 inches wide. There are two plates that line up with each corresponding plastic disk on the glass.

When the window is rolled up the disks slide up the plates which forces the window toward the interior as it closes.

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Ok,now I understand(had to look at my car,and Fisher manual)Have you tried loosening the front 2, and 2 rear bolts,on top of the door,and pulling the tracks toward the center of the car?My plastic thingies just graze the "ramps".Basically you are moving the whole mechanism toward the door panel.

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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old May 16th, 01, 03:28 AM Thread Starter
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No, I have not tried moving the tracks inboard! That does make sense though if the plastic disk is forcing the window in too far.

I am going to try that among other adjustments when I get the glass back in this weekend (after cleaning and lubricating the tracks/ mechanisms)!

Thanks for the suggestions guys! You all have been a great help. I will let everyone know how it turns out!

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I have done lots of work on my 68 and that task has the #1 place in my pain in the neck list. Haven't got them perfect yet so I'll be following this topic. "choptop" if you need copies of the manual, where it explain some of the details concerning the adjustment, e-mail me a fax no. Good luck.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old May 16th, 01, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks ORENCH! If you are referring to the Fisher Body Manual...I already have a copy which I am working from. I do appreciate the offer however!

If you have some other information that is not in the Fisher Body Manual please e-mail me and I will locate a fax # asap.

Thanks Again Everyone!

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