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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
 
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I have a 69 Camaro with a 350 that took a dump and am looking at building an engine. I want to do it right and am looking for a good combo. I have many questions and about 6000 to spend. I would like to have a streetable 11 second car when I am done. I was wondering if any of you know a good route to go. I have about two weeks to order parts. I am thinking the AFR 190 Heads as I heard they are great but I still need a Manifold, crate engine or smal block to start with, carb etc. Can you all help me out here?

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 10:12 AM
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Start with the GM ZZ4 crate motor short block. It is the same short block Edelbrock is using on their high horsepower small block crate motor. AFR heads are good. For an 11 second car, you might want the heads with 195 or 200cc intake ports. Use an Edelbrock Victor Jr intake and a Holley 750 double pumper.

For the kind of money you have, you might be able to build a very big small block based on the new World Products Motown block. I think this block will allow you to build a small block up to 434 cid.
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 10:41 AM
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James,

Take a look at this site, www.beckracingengines.com/

I have seen a couple of his 500hp motors on the streets and they "ROCK"!!!
If I were you I would go for a 406 or larger small block, can't beat cubic inches!



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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 11:38 AM
 
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Everybody has a different way of doing a engine, I would build my engine myself.
If I was going to put a new motor in my camaro it would be something like this.

383 10:1
0.030 over 350
3.75 crank 400
5.7 rods
Dart Pro 1 heads
2.02/1.60 200CC
Victor Jr intake
Holley 650 DP
1 3/4 34" headers
CompCam XR268R solid roller (or something like that)

I think that would come out to 460 to 480 HP and about 450 TQ. I would go to 383 to get more tourqe and because it is so hard to get a good 400 block and the new blocks cost to much and the 5.7 rods will give me more tourqe too.
The Dart Pro 1 are really good heads and you can get them from 200cc 215cc 230cc I have seen them at the track.
Victor Jr and Holley you cant go wrong, CompCam has a good line of Solid Rollers for the street.
I hope this helps a little.

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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 12:39 PM
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take in account are you going to use pump gas or nitruos ,carb or fuel injection..good-luck

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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 3rd, 01, 06:48 PM
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Use the AFR 195cc heads and a scat or egal crank with egal H-beam rods and some JE pistons and top it off with a preformer RPM intake with a edelbrock 750cmf carb and stab a rooler cam in there with roller tip rockers. With the comp up around 10-1 expect 500 hp with the same amount of torque this should equil mid to low 11's

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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 4th, 01, 11:19 AM
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I agree with most everyone here saying go with the large displacement small block. Personally, I like the 406 with the AFR 195's and a RPM manifold. 5.7 or 6 inch rods are a tough choice (splitting hairs there) but either way will run great. With $6k you should be able to get a new cast steel crank balanced rotating assembly which will be good to 6500 rpm and 500+ horsepower. As far as cams go I would suggest a hydraulic roller, I'm just not convinced of the longevity of a solid roller.

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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 6th, 01, 08:53 AM Thread Starter
 
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Ok...I am having my 350 block dipped today. I am thinking of ordering the 383 Stroker kit at 10.6:1 compression from http://www.speedomotive.com/newpage4.htm.It comes with J&E S.R.P flat top race pistons
@ 64cc=10.6-1, Speed Pro Race Rings 1/16", 1/16", 3/16", Forged 5140 Steel Crankshaft, Shotpeened for Strength, Angled Lightening Holes, Cross Drilled Forged 4340 "H" Beam Stroker Connecting Rods with A.R.P. Cap Screw Bolts, Clevite 77 "H" or Federal Mogul High Performance Chamfered Bearings. I will add the AFR 195cc Heads and 5.7" Rods and Edelbrock RPM Manifold. Also will do a hydraulic roller cam at 230int / 240exh @.050. Will this all work? Also I will need roller rockers at 1.6 or so will I not? Is there anything I am missing?
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old Aug 8th, 01, 04:37 PM
 
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I have heard some very bad things about Speed-o-motive from a lot of different people, I don't have any direct experiance with them. Just a thought, for the money your willing to spend you could get a 502/502 crate motor from Pace, and it comes with a warrentee
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