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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old May 24th, 01, 07:59 AM Thread Starter
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Do the exhaust tips on a '69 come straight out? I think '67/68 actually point in and down a bit (when looking at the rear) I'm not sure!! The ragtop is going to the muffler shop on tues. and I would like to give the apearance of factory duals...

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old May 24th, 01, 08:09 AM
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Yes they point straight back. My 68 they point down at an angle toward the rear and sit half way between the gas tank and the quarter panel. They really look like all they would need is another bend and piece of striaght pipe and they would exit like a 69.

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Don't forget to cut the teal pipes on a 45 about 1/2 way down on the ends.

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Dennis,

You and CA420 are right.....69 tips come straight out the back between the leaf spring and quarter panel. IN 67/68, the pipes dumped down towards the ground between the leaf springs and quarters, only extending about .5-1" beyond the quarter panel. My car had 69-style duals that dumped straight out the back of the car when I got it. It never looked right. I put the Flowmaster American Thunder system on my car that dumps the pipes in their stock 67 location, and the car looks so much better from the back!!! You can't see any exhaust pipes from the back of the car.....in my opinion, the shape of the back end of the 67 does not lend itself to having pipes coming straight out. However, I think they look cool on the 69 back end.

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So does this look correct... http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M...fd/i-4_B_L.JPG

or this.. http://63.175.115.160/cars/69CAMAROZ28/DSC00554.JPG

and here is a 3rd... http://members.aol.com/bbrad24tb/69camaro/Mvc-006s.jpg

I don't think I have seen them cut at a 45 unless it was a welded on tip. Were the factory tips actually cut at an angle?

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I don't think they are right. Look in the Rick's First Gen catalog. (Page 196.) There is a slight bend to the outside.

It is my belief, that most bend jobs replace the slight rake with more of a straight back to get the full dual system look. Please don't trust my opinion on this, meaning please do more research, but I'm the first vote for, no, not quite right.


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I agree that the pictures don't look quite right. I think the polished tips I've always ever seen on a 69 were always cut at an angle, but don't quote me on the correctness of that. I believe the correct 69 exhaust actually bends around the leaf springs so that the tips exit basically underneath the back of the springs, like the picture of the exhaust on Page 196 of Rick's Catalog (but keep in mind that I'm not well-versed in '69 restoration details - more of a 67 guy). Also notice the angle-cut tips.

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Dennis, the Flowmasters tailpipes I ordered for my 68 came complete as if they were going to be installed on a 69, that to cover from 67-69 models. We cut them where they are supposed in 67-68 but the original lenght didn't have the 45 cut, maybe they were supposed to be cutted for 69 also cause they looked too long at the end. Any way for $99 you can have perfect mandrel bent tailpipes in 2" or less.

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Yes the were all cut on the 45 like the crome tipes I will send you an e-mail

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Dennis,

Remember I sent you photo's of my car in that Powerpoint file?

The last one shows my exhaust at, what looks like 30 degrees. I had thought the factory exhaust was suppose to be, (on the side view) someplace at 45-55 degrees.

I'll look at some manuals tonight. What about old 1969 GM print ads? I have one here in my office, front view. (Rats.) I once came across an area that had old imagery.

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Tim is right. On page 7 of Macneishs book it shows his car way back in 1972, the tailpipes are cut on an angle. Djd, on page 38 of the same book there is a print of the three different combinations of exhaust that was used. It shows all pipes with a very slight offset pointing to the outside of the car.
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I agree with those pics. because there is a guy who has a 69 in my town and its very very close to be correct and his pipes look like that. And all the pics ive seen they come straight out or a very very small angle.
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Thanks for all the great input!! Whooo Hooo!! I fired the beast with the new Doug's and no pipes tonight!! Uncorked is AWSOME!! After almost a year of stock manifolds and a funky 2" exhaust my sleeping beauty finally awoke!! What a sweet sound indeed!!

Now that I got that out of the way... The guy that is doing the pipe work said he could do what ever I want out back!! Unless he has chrome ends already cut at a 45 I don't know if I will be able to have them cut. I did find a drawing in my assembley manual that show a side view and gives diminsions and I understand how it turns in. Does it actually line up directly under the leaf spring?

Tim- thanks for the photo! Rick- I remember an email about Freemont and you coming out this way, something about Compaq... I will look for the powerpoint one...

Thanks again!! Now hurry up Tuesday!! It's gonna be a long weekend!!

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Yes it does line up with the Leaf Spring most muffler shops have a saw that can cut your pipes off on a 45 for you. One thing about the long weekend you can go out there and lesson to it open and dream. Now I gess I will have to get mine out this weekend and drive it. What What is that a 302 I here. Have a great weekend.

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