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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old Jul 25th, 12, 11:58 AM Thread Starter
 
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1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Hey everyone. I'm going to attempt to buy a replacement upper dash panel soon for my 1969 Camaro and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this? Any suggestions on which brand of replacement panel I should buy (that fits well)?
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post #2 of 23 (permalink) Old Jul 25th, 12, 01:19 PM
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

The repro has a problem that makes it obvious the dash has been replaced.

The window for the VIN tag has square corners and a flat edge. OE window has round corners and a bead along the edge. Not only does that leave a gap around the tag, the mounting holes are poorly punched so the tag is not centered in the opening.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

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The repro has a problem that makes it obvious the dash has been replaced.

The window for the VIN tag has square corners and a flat edge. OE window has round corners and a bead along the edge. Not only does that leave a gap around the tag, the mounting holes are poorly punched so the tag is not centered in the opening.
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And, by the way, that is the GOOD one. The other one available isn't even as thick as the U.S. made version. Some vendors sell both. The more expensive one is the better one, but still has the issues Willima mentioned.

I welded the corners on the vin window and reshaped it, so at least the window is now the right shape. However, there was no way to reproduce the bead (more of a turned down edge). I didn't realize the rivet holes were misplaced until I painted the thing and put the vin tag back in. Crap, had to take it out and elnogate some holes to make it work. Very frustrating. It amazes me that I have yet to see ANY reproduction part that is really 100% correct. Vendors throw around phrases like "exact reproduction", "show quality" and "100% technically correct", but it is all just puffing in my opinion.

Rest of the upper dash was acceptable. If I had it to do over again, I would have patched in the part of my original with the vin window.

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

I bought an a/m one, but decided against using it for the reasons mentioned. They're bad and obvious... I decided to just repair mine. It was only the part where it welds to the cowl that rotted, so I'll patch it using a piece from the one I bought. I didn't want to mess with my VIN either. How bad is yours?

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Thanks for the responses guys. I think I'll go ahead and follow your advice and order a replacement panel but only use what I need of it (edge where the windshield rests). Here are some picture of the rust I am dealing with. I notice the rust is pretty close to the middle vent. Where do you guys suggest I cut and patch the new piece in?

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Before you remove the old one take plenty of pictures/measurements of the dash panel, particularly on the sidee where the doors close. When I cut mine out I left a small tab from the original panel to use a reference point and to weld the new panel to. All was fine until I started welding in the new panel and the crappy weld from the factory came apart and tab came off. The factory well was so bad there wasn't even a mark on the pillar. After it was welded in the dash panel was off, shifted slightly to the passenger side, making it nearly impossible to get the dash pad on.

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Thanks for the response Rocketrod!
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

The top is the same as GM X-body [Nova etc] '69-'79. Long shot, maybe there is a good one in a junk yard. Later models had an oval speaker grille, easily modified.

Back in the day, that is how this got fixed. The Nova dash was serviced by GM well into the '80s.

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post #9 of 23 (permalink) Old Jul 28th, 12, 05:01 PM
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

I think that the newest AMD made panel has fixed the problem with the Vin opening.
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post #10 of 23 (permalink) Old Jul 30th, 12, 07:45 AM
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

I'd love to see a close up pic of the speaker grill and VIN punch out on the new one.

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Although I did not order the AMD panel, I'll upload a picture of the new panel when it arrives.
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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Makaveli,

I had similar rust on my 69 dash. since my drivetrain was in and as mentioned the quality of the replacement dashes wasn't the best, I had my body guy section in the the good metal onto my existing dash. This way i didn't have to remove the engine or worry about my vin, not to mention you can't tell it was even repaired. One thing you also might need is the upper cowl panel which the dash rest on. I had rust there as well. My painter again sectioned in the good metal and removed the rust. He's a link to my car journey though the body shop.

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

Hi all I looking to replace my 1969 Upper Dash Panel and had picked one up from AMD, the packing was really bad, just a Thin One Sheet bubble wrap got it damage, I was told they won't replace it and will not ship any thing any further can't be put on truck and delivered (WOW). I also reached out to Real Deal Steel but won't ship to my location (HI).

So now I am looking at Dynacon and Sherman (was told 19 gauge steel) ? Doesn't anyone have any suggestions? I am waiting to hear back from Class Industries. I was hoping to find best OER possible.
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Hawaii is a hard place to find used parts. I cut an original out of a Nova. I don't know why the windshields in Nova's don't leak like the Camaro does. Today's 19 gauge metal is crap. If at all possible try to fix what you have. All of the aftermarket ones are most likely made by the same company and re labeled. Can you use the AMD one for patches?

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Re: 1969 Camaro Upper Dash Panel Replacement

The VIN hole on the AMD panel does not allow the tag to sit correctly in the opening, and the opening does not have rolled edges like the original one. The speaker grill slat stampings are flat, the original slats are angled.

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