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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 12th, 16, 06:41 PM Thread Starter
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Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

I installed the driver window this afternoon. Four times. Wrestled it in really. Not at all like the quick and polite install on the U Tube video I watched. Of course I pulled the rear window stabilizer after the first time I pulled the window back out. Yes, it's true. It cannot be installed with the window in. So out comes the window, stabilizer back on, wrestle the window back in. I determine that the rear stabilizer needs to be bent a little bit -too tight on the window. Yank the window again. Then while trying to bend the stabilizer back ( it was immovable) I realized what no one had ever mentioned.
The stabilizer is hooked on one end because THE HOOK GOES BEHIND THE SHEET METAL. Aaaaargh.
Correctly mounted the stabilizer and got that final polite, quick install.
The picture shows the front stabilizer correctly mounted.
Anyone discover any other things no one told us about window install?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old Jun 12th, 16, 06:44 PM
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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

Funny I was just reading this article when I saw your post. Everyone out there makes glass installs sound so easy. I hate the jobs that revolve around glass - just too many adjustment positions to mark and remember.

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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

Far from an expert but aren't the window felts supposed to be installed before the glass goes in? Maybe it doesn't matter on the F body cars.
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He has belt reveal moldings. The felts attach to those first, then the molding/felt is installed as a unit. I recommended to Mickey to install the glass first (it has to be all the way to the bottom of the door to access the molding screws) as that's the way I did it without any problem.

Was thinking the moldings/felts maybe could be installed before the glass (?), but wasn't sure, so I recommended doing it the same way I did.
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I did a D/S window in my 92 GMC van. The glass pulled out of the track. I used black Hi temp silicone to glue it back in. That was the worst window ever to get out and in. The install was such a PITA. I was told by a Dealer mech that silicone would never hold. It has been 11 years still working well. Guys that do windows regularly get fast at it cause they know what to do. For people that might do it once in a life time have a little more trouble. My 64 Lemans has to have the glass out to get at all the screws but you can get a couple out with glass in. I think you can drop the glass all the way down unbolted from the regulator to get at them. I just took The glass all the way out.
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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

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He has belt reveal moldings. The felts attach to those first, then the molding/felt is installed as a unit. I recommended to Mickey to install the glass first (it has to be all the way to the bottom of the door to access the molding screws) as that's the way I did it without any problem.

Was thinking the moldings/felts maybe could be installed before the glass (?), but wasn't sure, so I recommended doing it the same way I did.
I hope the inside felts/sweeps can be installed with the window in. Tonight I sneak the regulator in and bolt it and the window up.
There is a way to get the window a bit lower, I think. That would be to disconnect the vertical tracks with the window in it and let it drop as far as it will go.
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The inner felts are on the interior (door) panels. No problem there.

To get the door glass all the way to bottom, just remove the 2 glass mounting nuts from the horizontal sash and carefully lower it down.
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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

That's a great article, and I like that they included most of the part numbers as well.
I'll be starting this process over the next couple of weeks, so glad you posted this now

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I have still been fighting my 69 door window. 6 months now. I'm going to pull my hair out.
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Your stableizers are not in correctly....I figured that out on my 69 after 2 days of kicking and screaming.....some pumching...
They have to sit down and away in the recess. Are ypur doors and glass original or aftermarket...?
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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

Deroid-the right door is a repro and I had to do some bending of the door lip at the stabilizer mount and the stabilizers to get them to fit correctly. And the door handle hole had to be carefully reworked and bent in. With fresh paint it was a little hairy.

After figuring out that my stabilizers were incorrect the rest of it was a piece of cake. Vertical tracks go in first loosely connected. Then the door glass tips in to the vertical tracks. Keep it raised to give room for the regulator.
Sneak the regulator in with both sashes on the rollers. The hard part was getting one bolt to start on the regulator. Then the regulator could be rolled to help get the other 3 bolts in. I put the long sash in place and put the bolts on finger tight. Then I could roll the window up and down somewhat. This helped locate the small sash and bolt it down. This door had witness marks and I just tightened bolts to the marks. On the repro door I will locate everything roughly like the driver door for a start.

The wear pattern on the stabilzers was dead center so I pulled the glass back and forth and centered it on the stabilizers. After roof rails are in then I'll adjust everything.
The striker and latch had already been aligned. I pulled the latch back out before window install.
Now I attached both rods and the door crank to the latch and carefully put the whole mess in place and bolted it up.
The glass adjustments look pretty easy. It helps to have the Fisher body service manual and read it.
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Dude, your my hero! I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out the front glass, daa the hook goes behind the sheet metal for the stabilizer! I have been looking in all the factory manuals I have, every parts catalog with no success, thanks for posting.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old Oct 15th, 19, 05:30 PM
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Re: Door Glass Install...Things They Don't Tell Ya

Argghhh!!! I just had the EXACT same issue two weeks ago. Wrestling... in and out... and then it dawned on me. Doh!
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