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Paint on the id tab and control arms

Have a 68 camaro bb 396 ss/rs car. I just painted my engine and the id tab was paint however now i am not sure if it should be bare metal or leave it painted. 2nd item is the upper arms painted before the ball joints are riveted and if the bushings were also install after paint. A book called camaro restoration guide, page 111 states that the arms are paint semi black paint after ball joints are installed as one unit. Could someone, tell me the correct way to paint the arms before i screw it up. Thanks for any help.
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Re: Paint on the id tab and control arms

I'm not sure on the ball joints, however the engine pad was painted from the factory. Some people sand the paint down or scrape the paint off to make it easier to read.

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Re: Paint on the id tab and control arms

Would that be a ding if i start to show the car. Thanks for the reply
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That depends on the kind of show. If you are at a general car show, where you have judges that know a lot about a lot of different cars but not a lot of specific details about the individual cars=No. If you are talking about a Super Chevy show, where the judges are chevy experts= doubtful, but maybe a minor deduction at best. If it is concours show, where every detail matter=yes. If it were me, I would take a garbage bag, and cut a tiny hole and mask off the motor so the only thing showing is the pad and hit it with a cheap can of chevy orange spray paint.

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Re: Paint on the id tab and control arms

Upper a-arms had the shafts/dogbones, bushings and hardware installed, then painted. Ball joints were installed after and were natural finish. Engine pad was not painted, it was masked prior to paint. All this is at CRG.

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Re: Paint on the id tab and control arms

Thanks scott for the info. I need to find crg about the paint. I appears that the ball joints will rust so i will need to paint prior to install is that correct. Thanks again for the help.
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Re: Paint on the id tab and control arms

Agree with Scott. Here’s a thread at CRG about the engine pad paint.

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That depends on the kind of show. If you are at a general car show, where you have judges that know a lot about a lot of different cars but not a lot of specific details about the individual cars=No. If you are talking about a Super Chevy show, where the judges are chevy experts= doubtful, but maybe a minor deduction at best. If it is concours show, where every detail matter=yes. If it were me, I would take a garbage bag, and cut a tiny hole and mask off the motor so the only thing showing is the pad and hit it with a cheap can of chevy orange spray paint.
At some shows its a major deduction and as stated the pad was not painted as it was masked off and should be paint free.
Years ago many restorers painted the dog bones cast blast and left the washers zinc coated but that was incorrect and again as Scott mentioned the a-arms when shipped to the assembly plant they came as a painted assembly. Since the ball joint was installed at the assembly plant it is not painted.

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Thanks scott for the info. I need to find crg about the paint. I appears that the ball joints will rust so i will need to paint prior to install is that correct. Thanks again for the help.
No paint on ball joints but yes utilize a type of rust preventative or some people use a satin lacquer spray bomb (very thin coat).

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My bad! I have 3 engine blocks in my shop and the 2 that appear unmolested are painted and the one that I know has been to the machine shop has no paint. Apparently I ASSumed too much! My apologies for not looking on CRG first like I normally do before offering advice.

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I do appreciate all the replies. Should i leave it painted or remove the paint still open. I will do my research on crg. Thanks all for the help. As to the arms it appears all parts must be installed on each arm except for the ball joints. It is hard to believe the rubber bushings and the end caps are paint along with the bump stops again i will check with crg however the paint for the arms appear to be very limited.
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I do appreciate all the replies. Should i leave it painted or remove the paint still open. I will do my research on crg. Thanks all for the help. As to the arms it appears all parts must be installed on each arm except for the ball joints. It is hard to believe the rubber bushings and the end caps are paint along with the bump stops again i will check with crg however the paint for the arms appear to be very limited.
Frank, think of the A-arm assembly consisting of the bare a-arm, dog bone, bushings, and bolted and torqued with the end washer and bolt. That was the assembly that was painted prior to shipment to the car assembly plant where ball joints and anything else was added. If you go to the CRG website there are many examples of survivors in the "original cars & details" section that might assist you. I have posted many pictures of these two survivors there.
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Thank Chick will check out the photos as i need all the help I can get. Will check CRG thanks again
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