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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 19, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

Just got my car back from paint and missed finding an alignment problem where the header panel meets the fender on the driver's side. The two panels come together at an angle that will not allow the headlight trim to be installed. (passenger side is good)

The shop that did the work is 85 miles away and the owner is on a trip to the East Coast so I'd like to see if Team Camaro might be able to tell me how to fix this without a trailer.

I'm very satisfied with all the gaps and would like to avoid adding problems on top of this one if possible. Here are a couple of pictures of the situation.

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Thanks -

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I dont think where the header and fender meet is supposed to dip down like that

If my eyes are correct

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post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 19, 07:48 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

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I dont think where the header and fender meet is supposed to dip down like that

If my eyes are correct
Your eyes are correct, the angle is wrong -

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Aftermarket fender? How is the hood gap?

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

Very common problem with aftermarket fenders. Should have been addressed before paint as it is not possible to correct without reworking the metal.

Leaving it like it is will make fitting the headlight trim extremely difficult.

The only way to fix it it to rework and repaint the fender.

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

I'm not a body guy and agree that it should have been addressed before painting. Depending on what you paid to have the work done may influence your choice to bring it back or not.

*Keep in mind that if you try to adjust or even touch any of the shop's work you'll void any workmanship agreement you may have received.*

The bottom of the headlamp opening seems a little high and obviously the top of the opening is too low. Kind of looks like the edges are slightly squeezed towards each other. You could try to loosen the fender bolts and the top panel bolts and see if the fitment improves. If the headlight opening doesn't open up to fit (as suggested "typical aftermarket problem") then shims of some kind may have to be inconspicuously added (hidden) to make it fit.

Also, could the front end of the fender be mounted too high? Is the front radiator support cross member too high?

Good luck with that. If it were me, I'd bring it back to the shop no matter what you paid to have the work done.

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

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then shims of some kind may have to be inconspicuously added (hidden) to make it fit.
I'm going to try this first. There's a lot of flake in the paint and I'm concerned a repaint could create an outcome worse than a few shims. I'll post a picture or two tonight after work. Forgot to mention, the entire front end is Dynacorn except the hood latch and headlight mounts which are original.

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

X2 what John said.

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

Pretty sure that canít be fixed with shims. This is a well documented issue as is the fix which generally requires the cutting of spot welds, bending it back into place and redoing spot welds.

Google this:

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

I know you are following Matt's build thread. He had the same problem. He made a bracket and worked some magic to straighten his. You might want to look at this post number 953:

https://www.camaros.net/forums/133-b...ebirth-64.html

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

Eric's fender looks high. Just the opposite of the droopy fender syndrome.
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Eric's fender looks high. Just the opposite of the droopy fender syndrome.
Itís dropping down toward the center imho....

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Re: Header Panel to Fender Alignment Problem

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Itís dropping down toward the center imho....

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Shims are not going to fix it. If you try to shim at the core support it's going to effect the fender to cowl and door to fender gaps.
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Shims are not going to fix it. If you try to shim at the core support it's going to effect the fender to cowl and door to fender gaps.
Hey everyone, I played with some shims today and John's statement cannot be more correct.

I'm going to have to wait for the shop owner to get back and see what we're going to do for the situation....

There's no easy fix to this... Thanks to all for the reality check
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Itís dropping down toward the center imho....

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I call that a "scowl". Kind of like the new Camaro's.
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