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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 19, 03:06 PM Thread Starter
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69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

I'm getting ready for Daytona Yellow paint code topcoat on my 69 project, and questioning myself. Isn't it black under the upper cowl panel, with the paint code color extending over the front edge of the panel to the start of the firewall?

Pics would be appreciated, and thanks in advance,
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I believe it is body color inside the "cavity" under the cowl. I think the exception is if it has Z/28 stripes. Then the "cavity is somewhat sprayed the color of the stripe so when looking through the panel yousee the same color as the stripes. DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THAT. I may be wrong. As far as firewall, the black came up close to the edge but does not have a fine line taped off.

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Was body color from the factory except Z/28 which was painted stripe color.

edit...a little slow here , what Brian said !

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I believe it is body color inside the "cavity" under the cowl. I think the exception is if it has Z/28 stripes. Then the "cavity is somewhat sprayed the color of the stripe so when looking through the panel yousee the same color as the stripes. DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THAT. I may be wrong. As far as firewall, the black came up close to the edge but does not have a fine line taped off.
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Was body color from the factory except Z/28 which was painted stripe color.

edit...a little slow here , what Brian said !
Alright, thanks guys..!! This will have the rally stripes. So is the color in the cavity fully stripe color, or just directly under where the stripes are in a loosely somewhat "oversprayed" appearance??
Thanks again,
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The paint would be the entire top of the cowl except the corners by the door hinge area. You should not be able to see it through the fender/ cowl gap. It stopped at the edge where the firewall started. No hard tape line. They held a piece of hard foam against the firewall and just blew it in. vega$ had a good picture of his first orange 69 Z that showed it. He was doing engine work in the picture hopefully he will re post it. Here is what mine looked like. Mine is a 05-a Norwood car.
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1969 x-77 Z/28 orange/ white stripes, named by my daughter "Clementine ", M-22 close ratio, 4:10 12 bolt, CE 302. Hugger orange with white stripes. White standard interior. Restoration complete May 2018
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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

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I believe it is body color inside the "cavity" under the cowl. I think the exception is if it has Z/28 stripes. Then the "cavity is somewhat sprayed the color of the stripe so when looking through the panel yousee the same color as the stripes. DO YOUR HOMEWORK ON THAT. I may be wrong. As far as firewall, the black came up close to the edge but does not have a fine line taped off.
I believe the cavity stays the same in the cavity on a Z/28.

I believe the cowl panel was hung up and the stripes painted with it off the car; then installed.

Need someone here with more knowledge than me to confirm.

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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

There's a lot of info and pics on this at CRG. Lynn is correct and there would be no stripe color over
spray under the cowl vent grille as the stripe was painted off the car. See reply #2 here.
Factory paint process on a X77 with 57 paint code?
And here's a discussion thread with pics.
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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

Makes it easy then on car with black stripes.
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And here's a discussion thread with pics.
Z28 cowl paint (and Z11/Z10)
Note how the factory cleaned up the application on Pace Cars. Should've did that with Z/28 as well. I certainly don't have enough "purist" in me to duplicate a factory white stripe Z....

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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

The cowl stripe color and area painted are applied different on California vs Norwood cars is my understanding. I have seen CA Z's with the entire top of the cowl painted the stripe color.
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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

Not just California cars. My 08A Norwood Z (10 10 paint) had the top of the cowl painted white. I replicated it when i painted it in 2012.

Notice my wiper arm is still black. The wiper assy was installed after the white out.
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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

My Z11 has the top painted hugger orange like the stripes. My understanding is that's the way the were all supposed to be done. Here's another thread out with discussion on the topic

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Re: 69 upper cowl/wiper arm pocket paint/color

Steve, is yours NOR or LOS built ? In the link that Al posted and I commented on, Kurt mentioned that the extra masking was done at the Norwood plant, but not Van Nuys.

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I find it interesting how some processes varied from plant to plant and also seemed
to progress through the cars production cycle. The painters had a lot of freedom. Of
course it was people then and robots today.

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Got another ?? and searches are not finding it.

Does anyone know the PPG color code for the black on the Rally Stripes, and bottom rocker..??

Maybe I should start another thread, but hoping maybe here will do it.
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