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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old Nov 27th, 19, 08:13 AM Thread Starter
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Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

What would y'all expect the cost would be to have a shop do the DSE mini tubs for me? I was going to do them myself over the winter but I just moved from Ohio to South Bend and don't have the shop/garage to work out of anymore and really want them done before spring. Any estimates or real world experience from those who paid to have it done?

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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

$1000 labor plus the cost of the tubs.

Does not include narrowing axles, relocating shocks etc.

With tubs you're still limited on wheel/tire size do the OEM spring and shock location.

To fully complete the job will also need new wheels and tires.
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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

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$1000 labor plus the cost of the tubs.

Does not include narrowing axles, relocating shocks etc.

With tubs you're still limited on wheel/tire size do the OEM spring and shock location.

To fully complete the job will also need new wheels and tires.
I'm doing the Ridetech 4 link, coil overs and narrowed rear, one step at a time

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I just did mine, first time ever.
Took me two full weekends. First side Friday to Sunday. Second side went quicker started Friday finished on a Saturday
Shop would probably say a week to be safe.
Installed the Speedtech torque arm the 3rd weekend. Drove it the following weekend at an autocross. Nothing fell off.
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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

I would strongly suggest a Torque Arm over a 4 Link.

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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

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I would strongly suggest a Torque Arm over a 4 Link.

All good fun.
Can you elaborate on this? I have a feeling I will upgrade to one or the other in a year or two and have looked at both but don't have enough practical knowledge to understand the pros and cons.

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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

I just completed the mini tub with Ridetech 4 link. mine was extensive due to hidden rot in the trunk area and the quarters needed replacing. So if there are no issues with your frame or Sheet metal Im thinking 2 grand.
I had the chance to actually drive a car with Torque arm suspension and I wasn't pleased in the least! also the fact that the added weight and its a PITA to get the driveshaft out. a few pics of my install.


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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

The last 3 I built. 2 Torque Arm and 1 DSE Quadralink. The DSE was best but for a street car not worth the cost and chopping up the floor pans.

My buddie did a Ridetech 4 Link and itís ok but 4 Link is really designed for more straight line performance.

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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

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$1000 labor plus the cost of the tubs.

Does not include narrowing axles, relocating shocks etc.
Where I am the $1000 is optimistic IMO. The shops willing to do this work are a little scarce and are often VERY proud of their work. One place I talked to wanted $30,000 to $50,000 to rebuild my shell. The other is how long they want to get the work done. 6 to 9 months to rebuild the shell. I would be afraid I'd end up in body shop jail at a shop willing to do it for $1000.

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Re: Mini tubs, Expected cost to have done?

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I would strongly suggest a Torque Arm over a 4 Link.

All good fun.
How does the torque arm work with a GVOD?

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Where I am the $1000 is optimistic IMO. The shops willing to do this work are a little scarce and are often VERY proud of their work. One place I talked to wanted $30,000 to $50,000 to rebuild my shell. The other is how long they want to get the work done. 6 to 9 months to rebuild the shell. I would be afraid I'd end up in body shop jail at a shop willing to do it for $1000.

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Jeff, I have someone near you that does great work. His prices are pretty good and he never goes past what he quotes in time and money. The main problem is getting in. He books way ahead because of his good shop practices and workmanship.
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Jeff, I have someone near you that does great work. His prices are pretty good and he never goes past what he quotes in time and money. The main problem is getting in. He books way ahead because of his good shop practices and workmanship.
PM me the info or post it here please. I'm not dead set against having someone do my car yet but I kind feel I need to do it myself to keep cost inline. I can't justify putting $50,000 into a car that will be worth $35 or 40 when finished.

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All that work and expense. . . . .what is the advantage and the objective. Is it worth the hassle for a little bit wider tire? Am I missing the point. An improvement in suspension can be achieved without cutting and welding. Just an old guy talkin!! Are you road crossing or drag racing?
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All that work and expense. . . . .what is the advantage and the objective. Is it worth the hassle for a little bit wider tire? Am I missing the point. An improvement in suspension can be achieved without cutting and welding. Just an old guy talkin!! Are you road crossing or drag racing?
So you get up to a 345 tire on the back.

For 99% of us itís the look we are after.

The tubbing itself is the least of the expense. Narrowed rear end relocating springs and shocks or going with a different suspension, new wheel and tire and of course with bigger wheels you gotta have big brakes.

I figure about $6k all in by the time youíre done.

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All that work and expense. . . . .what is the advantage and the objective. Is it worth the hassle for a little bit wider tire? Am I missing the point. An improvement in suspension can be achieved without cutting and welding. Just an old guy talkin!! Are you road crossing or drag racing?
So you get up to a 345 tire on the back.

For 99% of us it’s the look we are after.

The tubbing itself is the least of the expense. Narrowed rear end relocating springs and shocks or going with a different suspension, new wheel and tire and of course with bigger wheels you gotta have big brakes.

I figure about $6k all in by the time you’re done. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forums/images/Camaros_net_2016/smilies/tango_face_surprise.png[/IMG]
That’s about where I was after re-hooping wheels, tires, complete torque arm kit with rear housing all powder coated. .
I reused my 9” third member
miscellaneous do-dads
I was around $7k. Installing it all myself.

I just finished my rear seat mod last night with TMI sport foam and upholstery. Add another $1k
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