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post #1 of 32 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 20, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
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Epoxy Primer Preference

I'm shopping for paint and body materials. I noticed a lot of the build threads use SPI. Has anybody tried the Eastwood or Summit brand epoxy primers? They are both fairly local to me and I can go buy them as I need them. Any negative experiences to speak of?

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Re: Epoxy Primer Preference

SPI hands down! 2 day free shipping

stay away from eastwood/summit you want your paint to last

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I had good success with SPI
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Summit and Eastwood is cheap Kirker epoxy as far as I know.

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I'm shopping for paint and body materials. I noticed a lot of the build threads use SPI. Has anybody tried the Eastwood or Summit brand epoxy primers? They are both fairly local to me and I can go buy them as I need them. Any negative experiences to speak of?
Mike, it would be beneficial to find a good supplier with quality products and start developing a relationship. All my paint was PPG. Primer, masking/sanding products, body filler, seam sealer, etc. etc. You will be surprised how often you end up there looking for stuff on a big project, and you'll need to be sure that everything you get works together chemically. The guidance and education you can get with a good supplier is worth a lot. Plus, you'll find that they'll start discounting stuff for you when you start coming in all the time. My $.02
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Mike, it would be beneficial to find a good supplier with quality products and start developing a relationship. All my paint was PPG. Primer, masking/sanding products, body filler, seam sealer, etc. etc. You will be surprised how often you end up there looking for stuff on a big project, and you'll need to be sure that everything you get works together chemically. The guidance and education you can get with a good supplier is worth a lot. Plus, you'll find that they'll start discounting stuff for you when you start coming in all the time. My $.02
My local jobber charges me out the wazoo. I can buy on eBay for much less.

I am a big SPI fan and user. Their forum is a great resource and the pros are willing to help the amateurs like me.

My other advice is to stay away from so called etch primers.

I hope I donít get spanked by you know who....

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My local jobber charges me out the wazoo. I can buy on eBay for much less.

I am a big SPI fan and user. Their forum is a great resource and the pros are willing to help the amateurs like me.

My other advice is to stay away from so called etch primers.

I hope I donít get spanked by you know who....

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If you are not a registered shop and have an account with a supplier, you will most likely not get a business discount nor deliveries daily to your place. I have no isues with SPI which I have used. I simply choose to use other products which suit my needs. I know pros who have resto shops who use SPI. Others prefer BASF or Akzo Nobel, both provide quality products and I have and do use them. Utech and RM EP series epoxy are good products.

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Mike, it would be beneficial to find a good supplier with quality products and start developing a relationship. All my paint was PPG. Primer, masking/sanding products, body filler, seam sealer, etc. etc. You will be surprised how often you end up there looking for stuff on a big project, and you'll need to be sure that everything you get works together chemically. The guidance and education you can get with a good supplier is worth a lot. Plus, you'll find that they'll start discounting stuff for you when you start coming in all the time. My $.02
For one car this approach is fine if product savings is not an issue, while not sacrificing quality. It is work for one in the business to keep track of products, performance and prices. If you bought all your products from PPG then you paid top dollar. Product compatibility is not that much of an issue unless you are referring to paint warranty. Most hobbyists won't get that from a company.

There are numerous pro sites out there that are willing to help others. Go check them out.

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I have used SPI, and Summit epoxy. Both of them worked fine, and have not had any failures with either. On my personal cars I use PPG DP90. Yes it's expensive, but that's just what I like the most. The Summit gets a bad rap. It sprays and lays down better than the SPI. I use the SPI on the fleet type trucks I work on. Dump trucks/tow trucks.

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Some freshly sprayed unreduced SPI epoxy on some 78 Trans Am bumper covers....

If you need it to spray like Summit and PPG just add a little reducer.... A 25% reduction should be about right based on my experience with those primers.

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Like I mentioned the SPI is not bad. I'm spraying it on a tractor restoration next week. My SPI rep cuts me a good deal on paper and tape too. Would be nice if SPI had more paint color options..

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Like I mentioned the SPI is not bad. I'm spraying it on a tractor restoration next week. My SPI rep cuts me a good deal on paper and tape too. Would be nice if SPI had more paint color options..
Sorry but in my opinion SPI is far superior to Kirker/Summit/Eastwood and PPG DPLF. And yes Iíve used all three. Solids content, adhesion, UV resistance etc. Yes, it takes a little skill to spray but if you donít spray the first coat too thick itís fine. And the price/value canít be beat imho.

DPLF used to be all the rage but I see more and more long time DPLF users moving to SPI. PPG is pricing the little guy right out of their products.

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Totally agree on the PPG price. They are not targeting to the little guy. SPI is specifically targeting the little guy. It's not bad. I have , and do use it. The new formula sprays better than the original formula. The new formula has been out a few years now. Never used Eastwood, or Kerkler. I can't swear that summit is or is not Kerkler. Summit will not budge on the info. Kinda doesn't matter, I don't use it
anymore because I have a SPI rep that will deliver to me within 2 hours. Just easier to get. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to dis SPI.

Oh and by the way, saying I'm putting it on a tractor is not a put down. This tractor is probably worth as much as some of the Camaro's on this site.

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Thanks guys your posts' kind of confirms what I was thinking. I was just curious as Summit's retail store/warehouse is only 7 minutes from my house, at least I can get my sheet metal there and they have every piece I need in stock. I do not even know where my local PPG dealer is, I would probably have to use vacation time to go there during their hours. Also I have to be cognizant of my project budget so I will order some SPI to get things started on the underside of the car. I am far, far away from priming painting exterior panels and I think I will hire that done so I'll let them determine what they like to spray at that point in time. What about weld through primers I've heard u-pol is really good. Any other favorites?

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I like 3M, or SEM. Some say don't even bother because it burns right out. I like to think it works.

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