The salesman at the dealer that we were dealing with was sent a message this morning laying out the fact that there were issues and what they were. Of course he did not respond, so I tried to give him a chance and I will be disputing the charge today with the credit card company.
My apologies if I missed this in a earlier post. Was this car purchased through eBay? If so, doesn’t eBay have some protection for this type of thing?
No you didn't miss it, the car was not purchased on Ebay. I initially found the car on ClassicCars.com and then found that the dealer also had a facebook page where the car was listed and most of the correspondence was done through messaging.
In the posted pictures, the car looks like many different colors however in the large picture of the whole car it shows as one color..why?
Kev
I'm not completely sure I'm seeing what you're describing to be honest. I do know this shade of maroon/burgundy looks different under different lighting as I have the same color on my 5th gen Camaro as well so that may have something to do with it.
OP
You are to be complemented on your calm and well spoken tone in ?'s and responses on this forum. I know it must be frustrating for you to be overseas and having to deal with this. If you have any contact with a nearby recruitment center or base to this dealer maybe someone can show up and represent your voice, in uniform, to make clear that the Military is behind you when you can't be there.
I can't thank you and all who serve enough to stand in the shadow of freedom and protection you selflessly provide
Thank you kindly, it means a lot to have your support as that doesn't seem to be as common as it used to be. I appreciate the complement as well, of course I am frustrated and irritated but I know those emotions aren't going to be productive in remedying the issue at hand. I will say that I am EXTREMELY grateful with the amount of genuine and experienced advice and help that you all have given me as it is immensely appreciated.
I would have to do some digging into any nearby recruiting centers but that is an interesting idea. With the current virus situation though, I know most recruiters are working from home right now as much as possible but I can check into it.
You don't mention if the car was advertised as a SS, if it was, and turns out not to be, then there is a possible way out of the deal. I would google search the vin also to see what comes up, maybe find some past history
That is a very very good point, thank you for that. So the advertisement for the car doesn't specifically list the car as an SS but in the many videos he sent me of the car, he repeatedly refers to the car as an SS which I would assume could suffice just as well. I did a little bit of research and the VIN itself decodes as a 1969 coupe V8 car from the Norwood plant but to my very limited knowledge, the VIN doesn't give any indication of an SS car or not. That being said, how could I definitively prove or disprove the validity of the car as an SS? It has power brakes, discs on the front, but what looks like a 10 bolt rear end. I know of the mono leaf versus multi leaf and the presence or lack of the reinforced metal plate on the frame rail behind the drivers rear wheel which I still have to confirm but that's about it and I'm not sure that that would be sufficient evidence to prove that to a credit card company in a disputed charge. So any thoughts or help there would also be appreciated.
David, Was the car sold as a concours restoration or as a untouched survivor? As far as recourse goes unless the car was blatantly misrepresented there probably isn’t much. The buyer is always responsible for their decision. It probably is a decent car for what you paid. Keep in mind none of us including you have seen it in person. I’ve bought two 69’s site unseen. One convertible 16 yrs ago and a z a year an a half ago. First one was $12k and the last one $22.5. It was a gamble, neither was misrepresented, but I could of been happier. My decision and I live with it. Send me a copy of the ad and I could give you more of an opinion.
It was not listed as either a concourse restoration or an untouched survivor to be honest. As for blatant misrepresentation, I feel as though purposely not mentioning or picturing the many body issues found on the car immediately upon delivery would constitute misrepresentation. Is it a decent car, I would say so but not for the price that was agreed upon because at the time of agreement, the car's condition was displayed as something other than what it actually is. I can send you a link to the ad and would be interested to hear your thoughts.
When you look at the pictures David posted the picture were strategically shot and edited/cropped to hide the body/paint issues with this car.
An honest seller/dealer would show you the issues to allow you to make an informed decision.
Sad to say I have yet to find and honest Classic car dealer.
My thoughts exactly, and in the videos the salesman sent, he mentioned the paint of the car numerous times and how well it shines. I asked him on at least two occasions if the car had any issues, big or small and the only thing he mentioned was that one of the gauges in the console didn't work. So it seems as though he was trying to maximize his profit and take advantage of the situation he was presented with.
Judging by the tail panel pic of body filler smoothing the factory seam and other areas, I assume the rest of the car was hacked. Cars I've done decades ago are not blowing apart and are driven in inclement weather. A qualified classic car body tech should inspect your car. Preferably one that is familiar with first gens.
I completely agree. I do have someone who has been a family friend for a number of years and does a lot of paint and bodywork on classic cars back home in Alabama. He actually did quite a bit of work getting the body right on my '66 Chevy pickup that was a family farm truck for years so I will likely have him take a look at the car as well to see what his eyeballs see with it all.