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post #181 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 16, 05:38 AM Thread Starter
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Looking great Dave!! I like the 245 tires you have, you going front and back with those?

I wish my clock was only worn points, I could fix that. Mine the little flywheel bearings seem to have spaced them selves too far out or something because the flywheel comes out of the top or bottom one then wont spin sitting at a angle.
Thanks Kevin. I am going 245 all around. Once I burn through the back tires though, I'm going to probably go with a taller wider tire to fill up the wheel well a little more
I wish my clock only had worn points too... I'm not done with it yet though. I'll figure it out eventually. I just fixed my wife's antique grandfather clock. I love the intricacies of clocks like that, but it's tough to diagnose them sometimes.

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post #182 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 16, 07:30 AM
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I wish my clock only had worn points too... I'm not done with it yet though. I'll figure it out eventually. I just fixed my wife's antique grandfather clock. I love the intricacies of clocks like that, but it's tough to diagnose them sometimes.
I've worked on my clock trying to figure out how to resolve the issue that I can clearly see what is wrong. If I get the flywheel positioned just perfect in the bearings and hold the clock assy. at the right angle it works perfect. My points are not pitted at all so I don't think this clock ran that long before this problem occurred.

Should just replace with a quartz replacement and be done with it, but........

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post #183 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 16, 09:51 AM Thread Starter
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I've worked on my clock trying to figure out how to resolve the issue that I can clearly see what is wrong. If I get the flywheel positioned just perfect in the bearings and hold the clock assy. at the right angle it works perfect. My points are not pitted at all so I don't think this clock ran that long before this problem occurred.

Should just replace with a quartz replacement and be done with it, but........
I wonder if there is an adjustment to tighten it a little or maybe if you give it just the slightest tweak?

Here's a pic of where the interior is right now. I'm planning on having it back together before the end of the week. Hopefully I'll have time to pop the M21 back together so I can re-install it and bolt the subframe back up.



Messy seam sealer, just like factory lol... Notice the quarter on the rear drivers side floor. Right where I found it when I disassembled the car. 1968 date. I'm pretty sure someone tossed it in or dropped it when the car was being built.




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post #184 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 16, 11:22 AM
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Thats awesome with the quarter! I found a 1966 penny under the rear seat in mine. Yours is really coming along nicely!

The clock bearings I've tried pushing them in the plate to move them but no go and would have to really take it apart to press them in further, unfortunately no adjustments to fix this.

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post #185 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 6th, 16, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
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Thats awesome with the quarter! I found a 1966 penny under the rear seat in mine. Yours is really coming along nicely!

The clock bearings I've tried pushing them in the plate to move them but no go and would have to really take it apart to press them in further, unfortunately no adjustments to fix this.
Thanks Kevin. It's only taken me 8 yrs to get to this point lol. At least 2016 is the year...
Too bad about the bearings. That's odd. They must have had an issue when they were installed. I'm sure you'll figure out a fix when you're ready.

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Dave, what is the brand carpet underlayment are you using ?
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post #187 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 7th, 16, 06:23 AM Thread Starter
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Dave, what is the brand carpet underlayment are you using ?
I picked it up at NPD. It's ACC brand. I'm happy with the fitment and it's pretty thick.

Last night I was able to button up my M21 with all new seals and gaskets. Now I'll be able to install my clutch and the tranny and get the subframe back under the car. It was so much easier just pulling the four subframe bolts to install and pull the motor and tranny. No tunnel scratches either....

This tool is the be all end all of clutch alignment tools. You can use it to hydraulically remove your pilot bushing too. $21.99 at Summit. I never cared much for the plastic ones.



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I still need to clean the tranny up more. I hit it with Simple Green and hosed it off, but the aluminum still needs some work.



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post #188 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 8th, 16, 05:59 AM Thread Starter
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At least I know my youngest son approves!













The last guy that ran this motor with a 4 speed must have had some serious input shaft vibrations. The pilot bushing was oval... New on the left.


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I'm glad you decided to replace the reverse idler. I really wanted you to while you were there! Seems it is starting to move pretty quickly for you.

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I'm glad you decided to replace the reverse idler. I really wanted you to while you were there! Seems it is starting to move pretty quickly for you.
It was the right thing to do. I knew better, but I saw a video of a guy rebuilding an M20 on line that had a gear worse than mine and he put it back in saying it wouldn't bother anything... Like I said, I should have known better lol Sad part was he was talking about shipping it out to a customer!
Things are cranking right along now. I'm taking it back east with me in a few weeks and I want it running and moving under it's own power before then. As long as I get a couple parts I'm waiting on and barring any tragedies, it should happen by the end of this coming weekend. Hopefully! It'll be close, but I might be a little overly optimistic.
Obviously I still have quite a few other things to finish, but I want it running and moving at least.

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Wow your really moving on this and now I understand your motivation. You get more done in 24hrs then I do in 2 weeks on mine. Looking great Dave!

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post #192 of 286 (permalink) Old Jun 8th, 16, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
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Wow your really moving on this and now I understand your motivation. You get more done in 24hrs then I do in 2 weeks on mine. Looking great Dave!
Nah, the motivation is just that it's been 8 yrs since I laid two black stripes up my driveway just before I started tearing it down. Life got crazy for a while and now it's a little less, so I'm able to put more garage time in thankfully. I'm just real excited to cruise it this summer.

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My alternator came in yesterday and I was able to install it and align my belts. I never realized the power steering pump needs a spacer shim between the body and the bracket that bolts to the water pump. Without it, your water pump will be cockeyed and the belt will be too close to the water pump pulley. I installed my Pertronix III with an advance limiter too.
I set up my PCV hoses last night, but I ran into a hiccup. I won't be able to run a hose to my current air cleaner so I'll have to run a breather. I have it going to vacuum though.
I picked up a California Car Cover. Wow is all I can say. They might be expensive, but they really are a tailored fit. I needed something good because it can get pretty dusty where I live.







Hopefully this will be the last big fitment issue. I think I'm going to have to re-route my fuel lines because of the headers. I feel like even with coated headers it will be too close. It's not quite as close as the pic makes it look, but it's close.




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Looks great Dave! I did the same thing , I Pre assembled the drivetrain and fuel/ brake lines on the subframe and rolled it under the body. Makes the job way easier especially when you have clearance issues like headers.

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Looks great Dave! I did the same thing , I Pre assembled the drivetrain and fuel/ brake lines on the subframe and rolled it under the body. Makes the job way easier especially when you have clearance issues like headers.
Thanks Pat. It definitely makes the job easier. I wouldn't do it any other way now. It's nice having room to move and makes for fewer skinned knuckles.

'69 SS396 X66 L34 08D M21 BS
460ci Gen VI 9.75:1
241/249 @ .050" .625/.625 110 LSA

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