Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor - Team Camaro Tech
Build Projects follow along start to finish

 7Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 19th, 19, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
Team Member
Dan
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 71
Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Finally decided to get started are trying to get my late father in law, Tom Dosher’s 68 running after it sat in a garage without running for 25 years. I always wondered how he let it sit for so long. After a year of it sitting my garage, I realized who am I to judge. I’m a novice, done a tone of reading, including this site for over a year (I know it’s been over a year because the annual subscription just auto-renewed - best money I ever spent), and spoke with many people about the car.

I wanted to start a thread for the car to track its path back to road capable. The car 68 Z28, without the engine. Original colors are butternut yellow with pearl parchment but car is currently black lacquer with custom pearl parchment (very worn). Engine is tricked out.

Began tonight pulling the plugs and putting two teaspoons of mystery oil in each cylinder. Drained what was left in the radiator, carrot juice I think. Draining and replacing oil next. Will give a couple days to soak and then see if I can rotate the motor (with plugs still out).

I attached pics of the spark plugs. Most appear to be fouled w carbon. 2 appears normal and 4 close to normal. Looking at the intake, I’m wouldn’t think fouled plugs would be a surprise. But not sure why 2 would appear so different than the others?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	5CCC58E7-6946-406A-A685-FCBFF3B78FED.jpg
Views:	157
Size:	371.1 KB
ID:	228711   Click image for larger version

Name:	0493BAAE-654E-40A8-AEAA-2841BA00F2EE.jpg
Views:	164
Size:	493.1 KB
ID:	228713   Click image for larger version

Name:	2BDD4615-A906-4ABF-967A-9778F0AAEE4B.jpg
Views:	134
Size:	397.0 KB
ID:	228715  

130fe, HawkX66 and rgwiz like this.
SlaughterD is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 19th, 19, 09:08 PM
Gold Lifetime Member
Roger
 
rogerh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Quincy, IL
Posts: 18,384
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Good luck Dan. I am sure you’ll end up with a great car to go along with the great memories of your father-in-law.

Roger

1967 Camaro SS/RS 350/295HP Coupe. First and only owner.
rogerh is online now  
post #3 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 20th, 19, 04:57 AM
Senior Tech
Ed
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Wheeling, WV
Posts: 379
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Nice ride! Good luck!
ZEN357 is offline  
 
post #4 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 19, 08:50 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Tom
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: the 02176
Posts: 5,975
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

It sure looks "80's" under the hood! Just the way Camaros did when I was in high school.

Watch out for stuck floats, cracked fuel lines, and that aluminum fan. Always have a fire extinguisher standing by on start ups like this. Let us know how it goes, video would be great.
3d cad likes this.

'67 rs - ordered new by my Grandfather
327 L30, K-K, Deluxe int, tach & gauges, 12 bolt posi, 4 speed.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Melrose RS is offline  
post #5 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 19, 10:41 AM
Team Member
Tim
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: PNW
Posts: 266
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

I had a buddy in high school that had a very similar tunnel ram set up but he had the definitive snorkel scoop as well. Looks like fun and good advice on safety for the first start up.

1969 Camaro - a gift from the brother-in-law build thread
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Shannon4570 is offline  
post #6 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 21st, 19, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
Team Member
Dan
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 71
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Drained oil, all 7-8 quarts from the large oil pan. There is an odor of gas in the oil. Hopefully that is because mixture was too rich with the intake set up (evidenced by plugs and the varnish on the intake seen in the above photo)

Removed the belt, water pump spins smoothly, alternator spins smoothly. Removed fan for safety and will reinstall later when we get to the running beyond 15 second stage w/ a new shroud. Will see if motor spins without combustion first, hopefully this weekend. After that, with the camaro came a lot of classic car parts. Have a more reasonable manifold and carburetor, and may have carb rebuilt and make a change before trying to run under combustion. Fire extinguisher will be a must (CO2 not powder).

Baby steps, my job only gives me a couple of hours each night to chip away. Added an old pick of a previous custom hood...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	25AE12A0-2C06-43BE-8E3B-90EE8F744477.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	302.7 KB
ID:	228733  
SlaughterD is offline  
post #7 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 19, 03:53 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Dave
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Sacramento, Ca.
Posts: 249
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Looks like you had one cool Father in law. Anybody who owned a car like that back in the day had to be Cool.

1967 Camaro
383 stroker
Automatic
Duneit is offline  
post #8 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 19, 04:18 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Steve
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Southeast Pa.
Posts: 1,530
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

X2 what Tom mentioned. Those fans could surprise you badly and they roar. It looks like gas stain on the front runners. That setup may be why it sat all that time. I wouldnt put gas back in those carbs without taking them apart first. As you mentioned swapping it out might be the best plan. I see quickie valve cover bolts. Assuming the motor has sat for 25 years without the rocker arms backed off you may want to see if there is an old set of roller rockers under there with the crap stretched out of some of them. Thats a nice way back machine you have.

67RSSS......owned since 69. A basket case for most of it.
3d cad is offline  
post #9 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 19, 06:19 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Chris
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,023
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Not wanting to get the cart too far in front of the horse, but down the road you may want to invest in a fan shroud to improve cooling. I'd also pre-oil the engine prior to startup.

'69 Z/28, Lemans Blue/White Stripes, DZ302, Tremec Magnum, 4.10, Procar Elite Seats,
Custom Upholstery, Dynatech headers, 17" VWW V45's, 235/45, 275/40, C5 Front Brakes
ctcz28 is offline  
post #10 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 25th, 19, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
Team Member
Dan
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 71
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Little concerned. Got oil filter off, and the contents in the filter were a milky brown (put in water bottle) The oil from the oil pan was black and looked good. Removed the valve covers and revealed 041 heads. They look like they are in okay shape but did see a little bit of fluid that appeared greenish (coolant?). Starting to worry have some coolant intrusion. Will keep chipping away. If motor moves, will likely have to take the heads off to make sure head gasket is good.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	26AECE26-FFAD-4C64-9AD7-954AFBA4A98B.jpg
Views:	52
Size:	484.9 KB
ID:	228793   Click image for larger version

Name:	0289B9BC-C089-48C8-9F77-08B317E9D960.jpg
Views:	48
Size:	335.5 KB
ID:	228795   Click image for larger version

Name:	6811DB88-E9A4-47EB-9D68-0742C9BE4BE8.jpg
Views:	55
Size:	354.9 KB
ID:	228801  

Click image for larger version

Name:	8CF5694C-7FC5-45E7-854B-471C59DE83EC.jpg
Views:	45
Size:	258.8 KB
ID:	228803  
SlaughterD is offline  
post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 19, 04:30 AM
Senior Tech
Ken
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: cincinnati
Posts: 120
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Might be a good idea to grab a coolant system pressure tester and pressurize the coolant system. It will help determine if you have a bad head gasket or crack somewhere in the block or heads
dhutton likes this.
ktrim is online now  
post #12 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 19, 07:43 PM Thread Starter
Team Member
Dan
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 71
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

First moment of truth tonight. With engine lubed up, used a breaker bar, was able to turn engine. Felt smooth and consistent. Will let it sit for the night and will try turning engine with the starter tomorrow. If that goes well, will work on cooling system and gas tank/fuel lines.

Can see video here of manual turning of engine.

https://vimeo.com/user102274167/revi...975/e422419fb9
SlaughterD is offline  
post #13 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 19, 09:00 PM
Senior Tech
Joe
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Apple Valley, CA
Posts: 455
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

That's awesome! I hope you try to preserve the old school look as much as possible.

I'm betting it will run with a charged battery and fresh gas. I've brought much worse back from the dead before
anguilla1980 likes this.

The important thing here is that you ask me what kind of car I've got. "I've got a BITCHIN' CAMARO"
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
'68 350 4 speed
kookykrispy is offline  
post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 28th, 19, 04:57 AM
Senior Tech
Al
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central NY
Posts: 594
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

Lots of fun waking them after a long sleep!

Mostly Camaros and FINALLY a Double Nickel
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Yellow69RSZ is offline  
post #15 of 33 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 19, 08:10 AM Thread Starter
Team Member
Dan
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 71
Re: Tom Dosher’s 68 survivor

On to fuel system. Dropped the gas tank. Some old fuel in tank to contend with. All hoses are hard as a rock, but of course already planning to replace. Seems only logical to replace tank and sending unit while I have it down, so will order one this weekend. any suggested places to get one?Some rust on trunk floor. Want to preserve car but not in restoration mode. Wire wheel areas of concern, prime and paint?

Of to watch Huskers season opener, GO BIG RED.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	84E4D4E5-3E65-4030-A9FE-227984158B04.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	402.8 KB
ID:	228915   Click image for larger version

Name:	A5947345-CAA4-4236-AA2E-D6E32533197A.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	285.8 KB
ID:	228917  
SlaughterD is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Team Camaro Tech forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address.
NOTE we receive a lot of registrations with bad email addresses. IF you do not receive your confirmation email you will not be able to post. contact support and we will try and help.
Be sure you enter a valid email address and check your spam folder as well.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome